Will ego make a 2 stage snow blower?

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I am about to buy a self propelled lawn mower. I am 50/50 on either a honda or the ego. They are both about $750 so price is not a deciding factor. I really want to replace my gas 2 stage snow blower with a battery operated one. Is there any updates or info on ego making a 2 stage? 

I'm leaning towards the 8024 snow joe and the the honda because I refuse to have 2 large items that require different batteries. It's never a problem starting a mower in the summer but winter start on a snow blower can suck.  

Thanks
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For a season, I had the Snow Joe ION24SB  (the previous version to the 8024).  When the snow blower worked, it worked great. I didn't even mind having to purchase a second set of batteries so I could complete my driveway. A lot of instant torque on the impeller for such a tiny two-stage. However, the first Snow Joe arrived damaged (poor packing) and the next two I was sent died on me after using each one no more than two times. It's a common complaint for the auger motor to just stop working on both the old and new model and never start again. I give credit for Snow Joe being the first to put out a two-stage and their customer service was phenomenal...but I wouldn't recommend their two-stage. Besides the bad auger motor, the snow blower propelled forward too slowly for my taste. When snow conditions are right, that's the advantage of the single-stage EGO...you can clear your driveway  pretty quickly.

I'm in the same boat as you.  I got rid of my 25 year old gas snow blower this spring to force a purchase decision this year. If EGO doesn't come out with a better snow blower (a single stage self-propelled  would even be fine), I'll either have to go gas or hire someone to do the snow removal for me. It's a good sign when we want EGO to build more tools so we can buy more tools.
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I’ve asked for the same a few times, a dual stage. The single stage EGO has its uses, and on a sloped driveway and wet snows it is starting to wear my back out. I’m going to keep it since it cost so much.

Who knows if EGO is working on something for next year. They seem to release variations of their other tools after around 2 seasons or so it seems.

I’m going to wait until next fall/start of winter before I decided to get a gas unit and hope EGO comes out with something self propelled and 2 stage or “inline 2 stage” like the gas toro I’ve been looking at.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled 2 stage snowblower.

So I see EGO has a couple different options for trimmers, blowers, and mowers. What about adding a big brother to the snow blower and making a compact 2 stage with maybe the capacity to hold 2-4 batteries?

I've seen people on EGO facebook asking for one and I know I'd be in line for one!
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You will be jealous this winter when you see my 33" 6 battery 2 stage blower I am working on next moowwahahahha. Actually probably one of the easiest things to make. Hint hint ego
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Can’t wait to see. If there’s no new release next winter I’m going to have to go gas, but still use the ego for lighter/less snowfalls.
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Jacob you are unbelievable
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Lol

I have the parts for it. Using my mower drive system.
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Anxious to see what you come up with!
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I'm going to wait about 2 weeks to see what deals are out there for Memorial day. I'll be buying the honda if I don't hear anything from ego by then. I may just get a 4 wheeler or utv with a plow instead. 

So hopefully they chime in with a 2 stage and I'll buy all ego.  
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Unfortunately, I highly doubt a snow blower will be announced at this time. Maybe Labor Day at the other end of summer if you are looking for a holiday tie in.
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I'm really hoping Ego makes a 2 stage blower.  I'm willing to toss 1K or more at it.  This money can be had by ego if they just make one, otherwise, I'll be forced to go gas and that would be shame. 
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My neighbor pays me to do her driveway with my ego single stage. The last few snows we had were too much unless you go out 3 times or do to try to keep up. She offered to buy me any snowblower I want as long as I do her driveway for as long as she lives here.

Anyways I’m hoping ego announces a 2 stage next winter before I go get a bigger gas unit.
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I live in NYC so I can probably get away with the single stage.  I live on a busy street so the snow plow pile is often 2-3 feet of hell.  I'm getting the two stage just for that. 

I usually take turns with my neighbors.  I would never charge them money.  The neighbors usually make up to you in other ways.  But if I can get a monster 2 stage from ego, I'll do everybody's just for fun.
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That last snow was brutal I got that early in the morning, then in the afternoon I was barely able to touch it.
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I know that feeling all too well.  Doubtful ego single stage can handle it.
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It handled it better than a shovel I can tell you that.
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Single stage ego can cut into the icy stuff without stalling ?
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Oh yeah. It's alot more powerful than you would think.
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That would be pretty amazing. I have a corded toro powercurve 1800 and the motor whines, grinds, and gives off a burning smell while tackling the pile.
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I have some videos on YouTube. One time it was blowing like 3" of slush. That's some heavy stuff. The ice at the end of the driveway has never caused me issues. And I live in the country across from an open field to the north and plow truck drivers that don't care where the snow goes. Check out some vids of it
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Cool. Can you provide the YouTube link?

If a single stage can tackle such a tough job, I can only imagine what a two stager can do.
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Good stuff. Thanks. The ego snow blower is bad ass.
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You were struggling pretty bad in the first video. Must be really nasty stuff. You were pushing hard. A self propelled two stage would had helped a lot.
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It was like pushing a blower through peanut butter. Sticky nasty peanut butter.
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"cough cough"

I hope they can at least give us a heads up on if they are looking into the idea. Even if it's 2 seasons away. I'm sure the demand is huge, well past what a few people on here are asking for. 
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Adding another voice to the mix. Please make a more powerful snow blower!
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I'd like to bump up this thread again in hopes we hear from an EGO rep whether we'll see a new self-propelled snow blower, whether that be a two-stage or an in-line two-stage? Living in South Dakota, winter comes sooner than later and if I don't hear from EGO soon, I'm likely shopping for a gas powered snow blower this Fall.
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I have their snow blower and live in upstate New York where we get the lake effect from Lake Ontario.  I contacted EGO last week regarding if they are planning to sell a two stage snow blower because Snow Joe already has a two stage, self-propelled snow blower.  Their rep kind of hinted that they might be in the future.  Let's hope they do.  Ego has the superior batteries.  It would help with the wet snow.
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No updates at this point, Bryan. We will definitely post when/if things change. 
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I’m waiting until fall, and if I don’t hear anything I’m going to pick up a gas also even though I already have the ego. I just need something with more power/self propell.

I really hope we hear something considering how many different variations of trimmers/blowers they have.
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I would accept and wait if we heard something like this..... 
Ego is working on a 2 stage that will be ready by fall 2018 but we are hoping to have it ready a year early for this winter.... 


I think at this point its going to be next winter. At this stage they would have to be past the testing and on to the supply and demand area in manufacturing. If they were this far they would have released info by now. Stores are getting rid of there summer products already. 

We have a couple of weeks, after that I'd say its not going to happen this year. 
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Since this thread is a year old, I thought I'd weigh in from Minnesota (having grown up in South Dakota, I feel you pain, Bryan!)... Battery tech has come a long way in the past year! Profit margins are much higher since battery costs have come down – or put another way, it's far more feasible for Ego to release a more beefcake 24" 2-stage snow blower with ridiculous power for an affordable price. Please, please, please, let us give you our money for a 2-stage Ego snow blower... This would be "The Tesla of Snow Blowers"... since I can't attach a plow to my Tesla
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I couldn't agree more Hanky... I feel like Ego has really dropped the ball on this.  It has been 3 years since an update and the competition is equal to or better now.  I am wanting to make a purchase this winter.  I have been waiting two seasons to pull the trigger on a battery snowblower.  Right now the Toro Power Clear e21 60v battery powered snowblower is in the lead for my business.  I had wanted to buy the ego snowblower with the two 7.5 batteries so that I can get the bare tool generator and match it with all my other Ego products. But the Toro is just heads above the ego on snow blowing.  Toro is using steel paddles, not rubber ones that don't stand a chance in winter weather.  I love the Ego auger adjuster up by the handle but I can live without it for a better machine with better auger, lights, etc.  Ego is so silent on this issue.  I have called, messaged, etc.  Nothing.  I would even wait a season.  Lest anyone think I am a troll I have all of the other ego products except the snowblower and the generator.  Bummer I can't be all in. 
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What is the issue with rubber paddles ?  I have never heard of them causing a problem or diminishing performance.

As you said it has been a few years since Ego introduced the snow blower.  I have to imagine there is something new coming this winter (clock is ticking) or next. 
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Why would you chose the toro over the ego? The toro is a single battery system. 60v is the same cell count as ego 56v by the way.

What benefits does the toro provide?
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I do not want to pay $59 for new auger paddles ever (many reviews say ice has caused the rubber ones to rip). The single battery provides the same power as the ego 2 battery system.  I have a small driveway so no need for 2.  The Toro auger will "Pull" the single stage better than the ego as the auger goes right down to the bottom and works across the machine. Lastly, I am pissed that Ego will not comment or pormote any new tech comming and am tired of waiting on them.  
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I have not seen the auger issues, but I guess it could happen.

When you say power do you mean power or run time.  Ego's peak power technology system sucks an awful lot of power out of that dual battery set up. 

Are you basing your power assessment on torque or what measure ? 
Do you have the stats for both machines ?
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Power assessment is really simple, both are claiming 35ft (ego) and 40ft (Toro) so power is assumed quite similar even though the Toro only uses one battery. I think the metal auger makes all the difference. Reviews are also saying end of driveway ice, slush, and buildup are not an issue for the Toro with the metal auger.  I do know that many have had issues with the auger system on the ego due to the rubber augers with slush etc.. I also know they are a pain to change.  I do not want to spend a potential $100 every two years on maintenance.
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When you try and shove 3 cubic feet of slush thru a 3 in chute you are going to have clogs.  Not sure that has anything to do with a rubber auger.
As I have had no problems with my Ego snow blower and its rubber augers we will just have to differ on this topic.

The power may be similar in optimal conditions but what will the Toro do when it needs a power boost.  I know the Ego can continue to generate 35 ft type power with its peak power system - not sure what the Toro will do.
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i havent ever had to replace my auger rubber. 
but whatever. 3 years strong
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I'm feeling the need to provide an update since my comment has sparked a valid return of comments in this thread. I ended up buy the EGO snow blower after all despite what I would consider "needs improved" with this mower. My overall impressions have been good and I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again. You're right since then Toro has introduced a similar snow blower and I don't think you could go wrong there (especially if you've already invested in the Toro line) but the EGO is also a good snow blower. If you have other EGO products and a top of the line single-stage blower meets your needs...I don't think you can go wrong with this snow blower. I have no regrets purchasing the EGO snow blower last year.

Has EGO dropped the ball by not introducing a newer snow blower? Who really knows. Unfortunately, EGO is pretty tight lipped about new product lines and seem unwilling to meet us half way by letting us know what their plans are for their product line. Any new product information that does make this forum seems to get deleted if EGO doesn't want to talk about it yet. My main point here...just because you haven't heard about an upcoming snow blower from EGO doesn't mean there isn't one. I doubt they've dropped the ball here...they're just controlling the narrative in a way some of us don't appreciate. 
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I'm feeling the need to provide an update since my comment has sparked a valid return of comments in this thread. I ended up buy the EGO snow blower after all despite what I would consider "needs improved" with this mower. My overall impressions have been good and I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again. You're right since then Toro has introduced a similar snow blower and I don't think you could go wrong there (especially if you've already invested in the Toro line) but the EGO is also a good snow blower. If you have other EGO products and a top of the line single-stage blower meets your needs...I don't think you can go wrong with this snow blower. I have no regrets purchasing the EGO snow blower last year.

Has EGO dropped the ball by not introducing a newer snow blower? Who really knows. Unfortunately, EGO is pretty tight lipped about new product lines and seem unwilling to meet us half way by letting us know what their plans are for their product line. Any new product information that does make this forum seems to get deleted if EGO doesn't want to talk about it yet. My main point here...just because you haven't heard about an upcoming snow blower from EGO doesn't mean there isn't one. I doubt they've dropped the ball here...they're just controlling the narrative in a way some of us don't appreciate. 
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It does seem EGO's security about new releases is a bit lacking. Things do seem to leak out from time to time. I worked in high tech companies and that sort of security is paramount because companies will do their best to copy what they can. It's really so competitive. Some companies don't really care if they release info before actual product release, but many keep things very close to the vest. 
Really hoping a 2 stage snow blower is on this year's release list, but who knows?
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Hey TK, szwoopp, & others,

I know some people have had no issue with the rubber blades. If that works for them, then great! Enjoy the product you can buy now. From what I've heard, actual results can and do vary... Some people chew through these in less than a season, whereas others have no issues whatsoever.

In my case, I live in Minnesota, and would prefer to wait until spring melts it all away. Because I'm lazy and don't want to snow-blow unless I abso-freaking-lutely have to, there's usually a healthy amount of ice built up by then, and only the Death StarTM snow blowers with grown-up steel blades will chomp through the ice and packed snow.

That said, if I had a quiet, powerful 2-stage electric snowblower that doesn't smell like tailpipe in the morning, I might not have any issue getting out there more frequently... but I want to have options I know will work, even under less-than-ideal circumstances. Even when I've been ambitious and ambled outside first thing in the morning with a gas-powered snowblower and cleared my driveway meticulously, there have been times when the snow was still coming down by the time I had to go to work, and by the time I came home, it had accumulated another foot or so, then rained upon it, and frozen it completely for good measure. I'm pretty sure I would chew through a rubber blade on the Ego every 5 feet or so on something like that. On a 240+' driveway, I'm thinking the rubber blade would be toast pretty quickly. Batteries can be swapped pretty quickly, and I have no issue buying more. Rubber blades, not so much.

Regarding marketing strategy: Ego chooses to emulate Apple's approach to communicating product roadmaps, which is to prevent cannibalization of current sales due to impending product releases. That's worked out great for Apple, because they're currently one of the most valuable companies in the world... But the case could be made that Ego could learn a thing or two from a different company that is a better analog to their product matrix: Tesla. That's right: I view Ego as "The Tesla of Outdoor Tools". Tesla has no problem telling people about their product roadmap (see Model Y), and yet, they have people lined up out the door and around the block to buy their current offerings... In fact, there are plenty of people who will put down money on their current offering, and then trade-in and upgrade as soon as something better gets released. All without having to spend a single cent on advertising. Just sayin.
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I would love to see this as well.  I have the single stage ego and a 2 stage gas powered that I am dying to get rid off...just need ego to make the 2 stage as I am not going to buy another brand/battery.  My driveway is too steep to manage without it being self propelled.  
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Even if I knew Ego was working on a 2 stage snow blower for winter 2019/2020, I could wait.  Love my Ego products.
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The problem is you will never know.  They will never tell you.  I do not understand this type of marketing.  Milwaukee tools and others let you know months if not a year in advance what is coming so that their loyal customers can wait and save for upcoming products.  Ego... not so much... its sad.  But hey! They market the heck out of their new chainsaw lol.
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There was a one-day sale on the current snow blower at Home Depot recently, so I jumped on that. It would now be _perfect_ if a new two-stage unit came out this season, since I was waiting for either a sale _or_ an upgrade.
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Git on it ego
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I finally gave in and bought the EGO snow blower given that I had a HD 10% discount. I'm not taking it out of the box still the snow flies though...just in case of a possible return for a very hushed secret new snow blower by EGO is released.
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Congrats Bryan!!!! I am "jealous" as I have been waiting to pull the trigger on this but cannot get the GREEN LIGHT from my treasurer (wife) yet ... :-)
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Get the green light David. It is a nice machine.
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I agree I went with asking for forgiveness as my 2 stage beast gave up the ghost this winter and I have no regrets about not going bigger. One 10 inch snow fall left me with a little more work but frankly the pros out weight the cons easily.
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I received the snowblower for Xmas and was really excited to use it. Unfortunately it was a huge disappointment for me. Given all the good reviews I’m guessing most of you have perfectly flat concrete driveways with no slope. Even with that I don’t know how anyone can blow anything more than perfectly fluffy snow with this machine. If you are coming from a two stage I am really surprised it worked for you. I was replacing a 20 year old two stroke single stage Ariens and I can tell you the Ariens significantly outperformed the ego. The main reason is the design and not the power. If you look carefully at the placement of the auger, it sits almost have an inch above the ground. Even tilting the machine back doesn’t close the gap any. Any snowblower I’ve ever owned has the auger almost touching the surface which helps dig out hardened snow plus it acts as a propulsion mechanism. I had the ego out for 30 minutes and could barely clear 1/8 of my driveway. Because it requires you to iise the scraper bar to dig into the snow it snags on any minor crack. Plus if you have hardened snow you have to force it through instead of it dragging you through it. I returned it the same day, brought Ariens to talk and it cleared my driveway in 20 mins with ease. I am a mechanical engineer and I am confounded by this design. I’m glad it worked for you though.
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Use on packed snow, like snow that’s been driven on, will give mixed results. The scraper is solely responsible for clearing to the ground, and as light as the machine is, won’t chew through densely packed snow.

Best results with the Ego are to use it in snow that hasn’t been driven on, or in warmer weather been allowed to sit and turn icy.
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I don't think a battery blower will have enough power for many years (maybe even up to 10 years) to even compare to a $700-1k gas blower. I have a feeling a comparable set up with an extra battery would cost more than 2k vs $700-1k and gas.

Found the trick to the gas blower if it doesn't start. Put a heater near it for about a hour and good to go, now that I insulated my garage I never have an issue with a cold start at all.
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Snow joe has a two stage blower that gets decent reviews. I have a lot invested in the ego ecosystem so I’m not willing to go another direction at this point. I used to work for the department of energy so I know quite a bit about battery tech and I like ego’s batteries. I have several of their tools and have been pleased for he most part. What concerns me is that they claim to have over 100 engineers yet could not build a snowblower to compete with my old two stroke. This makes me question their ability to develop future tools that meet my needs...
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I should also give the caveat that I moved and have a much smaller space to clear, which had a major impact on the purchase. Not having to deal with tune up's, gas, oil and the bonus of needing significantly less storage were all factors that were taken into consideration. My driveway has a bit of a grade so i tend to go back an forth rather than up and down but minor adjustment in routine were easy. I have had no problem clearing down to the concrete and to the fol following posters statement, yes it is very even slabs both on sidewalk and driveway which ease the overall use of the machine.
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If Ego offers a 2 stage snowblower before this winter I will buy it in a heartbeat. Otherwise, I will have to buy a gas power model, please don't make me get a gas model.
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Coming from a 2-stage gas snow blower, I was quite pleased with the performance EGO's single stage snow blower. There was only one time I had difficulty clearing the end of the driveway with it. I have no inside information, but my gut tells me EGO will more than likely introduce a new snowblower for 2019-2020. I just don't know if that would be a new two-stage or a new improved single-stage Gen 2. So far none of the manufactures have been able to produce a reliable electric two-stage...so EGO may play it safe with just improving the single stage. 
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They need to do something.  This has not been one of their strongest areas.  There is a huge demand.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Two Stage codeless self propelled snow blower.

ego should start making a two stage snow blower like snow joe this I thing is going to be a top saler for older people. Gas is to heavey snow joe has the only two stage model.
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I have ego mower, hedge trimmer, edger, weed wacker, blower... My snowblower is my LAST gas item in my house, period (even my car is 100% electric)... PLEASE give me a new snowblower to buy.
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What are you looking for Ryan ?
The current model has been working great for me in Chicago area.
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So the current model works... I actually used it last year for the last couple snows, but there was a wheel issue that made me take it back.. So yeah the current one is good, and I may buy it again... I would just prefer a new model as I think we all realize its coming at some point.  Im sure they will improve the scraper bar, maybe even make a 2 stage (which im not 100% sure i want anyway).  
Just the fear of buying something and 2 days later it being outdated haha... I am in sales for Enterprise IT, so I understand the customers concerns with this already.
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Why can't EGO just say if they'll have a 2 stage snowblower for 2019-2020 or not?
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The single stage price went up to 650 USD. So that probably means no. But it also may mean nothing.

It would be expensive for sure. Definately a 4 battery system using 5 or 7.5ah batteries so it could be compete with a gas powered unit.
However, a 4 battery unit could safely blow away any gas unit under 15 hp.
Just my thoughts based on my mower builds. I pull 60 amps from 4 batteries very often. If it was from 2, those batteries would be pissed.

If they made a unit like this, I don't think people would be willing to spend the 1k in batteries along with a 1k unit.

Because of this, I doubt you will see one any time soon. On another note, I would never have believed they would make a 3000watt peak 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter either.

Perhaps the 18" chainsaw beast and 21" dual battery mower powerhouse are signs of them getting into much much more powerful systems. These items definitely show they are interested in pulling rediculous amounts of power from these batteries, and their batteries can take it, trust me.
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Most people wouldnt need four batts.. only maybe 2... I already have 3 batteries for blower, edger, mower etc.
Ill end up buying it this year, new model or not... just wish their was
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I'm saying the power requirements would require 4 batteries to run a 2 stage unit.
The power is divide among the installed batteries. to pull the required amps for a good 2 stage, more batteries would be needed to divide the power requirements.
If you need monger run time, you would need 8 to keep you going.
I have eight 5ah for this reason. My mower uses 4 because 2 would melt on my mower I built.
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Just wanted to add I really want a 2 stage from EGO trying to decide if i should wait for a 2 stage and keep shoveling or just buy the single stage now.
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Just by a gas power 2 stage. After seeing people struggle with their single stage ego blowers yesterday, I know know that battery tech (consumer level) is at least a few years away. My gas power airens is great and I've moved on.  I'd rather deal with gas than have a huge battery, plus a backup, the cost with not be worth it and the power needed to compare to a gas is just too much. 

Perfect example is my milwauee m18 (9.0ah battery) weed wacker, it has a ton of power but does not really compete with the gas echo I had.  Plus the fact the first battery only lasts about an hour. 

I suggest to move on, I'm guessing they'll about $1200-1800 with a extra battery is just too much.