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I cannot get the lawn mower to shoot the grass into the bag or out of the rear shoot it just seems to clump up and get stuck even if I just have a small amount of grass I've tried using cooking spray I have tried everything they have told me to do it This is a total waste of $400 The worst lawn mower i have ever owned
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First. Did you remove the mulching plug?
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^this is what got me the first time I tried to use the bag.
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Marc, the mower is shipped with the mulching plug in place. I realized that when I first used mine and wondered why the bag was empty.
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This is the 3rd year I've owned the LM2101 (not self-propelled) mower and the 1st year to use the bagging feature.  I did remove the mulching plug and it works great.  

It's light weight, easy to put on and off and it holds a lot!  It's easy to empty into a lawn/leaf bag set into a very large plastic shrubbery pot that came with one of my landscape plants - so all I do is dump the grass/weed seed into the lined pot.   Makes it easy to empty. 
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Yeah, this is perplexing. The only explanations I can think of is either the mulch plug is still in place or the bag is being put on with the rear flap still down, if that's even possible.
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I kept forgetting to put the plug back in and that leaves a trail of clippings along the right side.
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I took the plug out on mine and inserted the shoot that directs it off to the side.  Grass still just clumps in there.  It's almost like I never took the plug out.  
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The "side discharge" chute is a terrible design. Definitely not worth using at all. Bag or mulch and you'll be fine.
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Follow arrow to correct info ^
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When I use the mulch setting with even slightly thick/tall the grass just gathers under the mower and the blade makes a noise like it's suddenly spinning at a higher RPM until I lift the mower up to get the grass out from underneath.  I thought maybe letting it out the back would solve this problem.  No such luck.  The mower bogs down and the blade stops even sometimes if I've cut to a Level 3 and then try and go over it at 2.
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2 is pretty darn short.  What type of grass do you have.

The higher "gear" is a feature to help the mower maintain RPM and get thru thicker grass.  So you are defeating the purpose by lifting it up.

I mow my blue grass at 4.  Taller grass means deeper roots, less watering.
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If I don't lift the mower up it just keep going indefinitely at the higher RPM.  It doesn't really seem to do much for mulching.  I'm going to try sharpening the blade (admittedly I never have) and see how that affects things

I agree 2 is pretty short.  I usually cut on 3, but recently decided to try 2 just to see how it would go.  I like the short even look of it and to give a little more time between cuts in the spring when it grows so fast. I don't think I'd go that short during the dry summer.  I'm not sure of the exact type of grass I have.  The blades are relatively thin.
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I have trouble with the motor speeding up and nearly stalling, only if the grass is too moist - such as when I mow too soon in the morning before the dew or if previous day's rain has not dried completely - and/or if the grass is too long or I'm cutting too much off of tall wild grass at the back of my lot on the city drain property.   

Moist tall grass is the kryptonite of the EGO mower.  >:8-p

It's just not a super powerful machine and seems to need optimal conditions to perform its best.   I'm content to baby my LM2101 mower along, for the convenience and so I don't have to deal with oil/gas/pull cords, electric cords, etc.

Maybe the machines with double 56V batteries are more powerful/rotate faster/cut through taller grass.

If not, when there are 70+V EGO batteries and machines with double 70+V battery mowers, one of these days, LOOK OUT!  Those mowers will be able to handle all conditions and lengths of grass.   


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There have been discussions here of how cutting on 1 or 2 causes the mower to hit the dirt and scalp users lawn thus making it useless.

There are also users that have requested a turbo button so they could run their mower on high when they want / all the time. Again the high gear is a design feature not something to try and avoid. 

Different strokes for different folks.
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I only cut on 2 early in the Spring before the grass gets tall and the weather gets hot (85-90+) to catch the winter weed seeds, then when it's hot, I mow on 3.   That helps the roots to grow deeper and protects the grass from the heat.
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I agree, there were definitely a few spots where 2 cut a little bit too short and almost down to the dirt if there was an uneven area I had to go over.  It seemed to well overall on the flat areas though.  
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Yea I do 3 in the spring and just started at 4 measured it and 4 seems to be closer to 3 inches
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LM2142 and tall grass

Hop to 2 minutes on this one if you want to get to the really tall grass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd85zB-59Wo


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bln7r1cFzGs/?hl=en&taken-by=toolsbydesign


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If I only didn't have a buy a new mower for it....  
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If you are scalping your lawn at setting 2 you are likely cutting too low for this mower.  But if that is the way you like it cut then that is your choice.

It is not going to work for everyone and it does not work the same as a gas mower when it comes to powering thru large amounts of cut.  The recommendation is to cut off 1/3 of the grass height at most.  
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Yes, a few small areas got scalped and I agree it was too short there.  The majority of the flat areas were ok though.  
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If you are under 90 days since purchase you can return it to HD
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I'm a year and a half in. I love the mower overall, with the ease of use of the batteries and sharing them with my other Ego stuff, it just gets bogged down sometimes. I'm going to try one of the new high lift blades and see how that works.  
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Depending upon conditions. mine is set at 3 or 4 and only go lower to mulch leaves or prep for aeration. Never a problem bogging down under any conditions; mine has a 7.5 Ah battery and I mow at slowest SP speed.
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2 is perfect for centipede, as it vines along the ground.  If you don't cut low and cut often, you risk weeds.   In the growing season, you want centipede to vine, not grow tall 
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I don't see that Marc apologized.   LOL!!
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I don't see his reply either. Perhaps he's enjoying bagging now and can't chime back in.
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I decided to try the bag tonight.  The bag system seems poorly designed as it's angled upward so it's not easy for the grass to get in to it.  I'd get some in there and then it would just seem to get clogged at the opening at the rear of the mower.  Am I missing some secret technique?
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Next time, perhaps try walking slowly, as someone else suggested.   I'm 5'2" and have had no trouble with clogging and getting the bag filled.  
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Same here; mow at slowest SP speed and bags well.
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I've no idea what you are doing wrong, but I've bagged using the 21SP for 3 years, and the bag fills up just fine. l use the HL blade, but don't recall that the standard blade reduced bagging efficacy.  Maybe your grass is too wet, too high, you are going to fast...but the mower bags just great if used correctly.
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I'm not sure I could handle moving that slow for my entire yard.  It'll probably an an hour to the mowing.  I'll give it a try some and see what happens.
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I have tried repeatedly with different heights of grass and no matter what I do it clogs up in the shoot and will not go into the bag I have even tried using cooking spray and silicone spray as they have suggested and it does not work it is very frustrating I can't figure it out besides the point of the grass being sick or wet I have never been told in any owner's manuals of my gas lawn mower that I needed to make sure the grass was only a certain height I understand you can't cut it when it's wet but they have never told me to put cooking spray in my gas lawn mower shoot this seems to me to be some kind of a design flaw were defect apparently I'm not the only one that experience is this issue they're supposed to be sending me a different blade that takes care of the problem I will be happy if it doesn't I'm taking my lawn mower to wherever they are located and park it in front of the door and asked for my money back
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The mower works  great for many. 
If it does not work for you then return it to HD for a refund.

I do not use any sprays and it works fine for me bagging or mulching.
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"I'm taking my lawn mower to wherever they are located and park it in front of the door and asked for my money back"

Now that's just freaky.   Just take the mower back for a refund as sz mentioned!

FYI: don't buy the EGO CS, because that requires chain oiling, and also don't buy the hedge trimmer because that requires blade lubricant.
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I just don't get this. When I mowed my backyard on Saturday the grass was 7 inches tall in some spots and it was so wet there was standing water in parts of my yard. You can't get wetter conditions than I had, and yet I had no chute clogging whatsoever and I've never lubricated the deck of this mower.
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Impressive performance Ken.  Thankfully I have never had the opportunity to mow my grass in such conditions.  I have been able to mow between storms the past few weeks as in it starts raining as I finish or withing a few hours. Crazy spring this year.
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I understand that a lot of people have no issues but I cannot get the lawn mower to shoot the grass out the back or into the bag it is the worst lawn mower I have ever owned
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Marc, you make no mention of what you have tried since you started this thread. Just the same complaint. Are you still sitting on this same mower 3 weeks later? Without having tried anything else? Or exchanged it? I call shenanigans. 
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I am waiting on the manufacture to send me what's called a high grass blade
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Ah, high lift blade. You verified you removed the mulching plug?
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Yes sir been having this issue since i got it last summer
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You've been putting up with this for a year? You are way more patient than me.
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Is the blade upside down? This will definitely cause weird issues and you won't be the first to have done this on here.
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I left the plastic mulching plug in once, it took me a few minutes to figure it out.
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Marc, let's assume you got a defective mower, so take it back for exchange and see. If the replacement does the same, just get a refund and buy something else. Hope it works out for you.
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They will. Not refund
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so did you take out the mulch plug? you never replied to those questions.
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Yes i have done everything
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I can't take it back to the store any issues have to be handled through the manufacturer is supposedly sending me a different kind of blade but I haven't heard anything from them in 2 weeks
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So you had the mower longer than 90 days when you made your OP? Home Depot's return policy is 90 days, 1 year if you used an HD CC. Are you passed 90 days now?
I'd really like to see pics of the underside of your mower as it is right now including the chute area.
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Currently out of town but I'll try and post some for you by the weekend
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Post a video on YouTube. I want to see this. I believe you. I just want to see a video. It always helps us resolve issues.
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Here's what my chute does.  




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What the heck are you mowing. Grass with glue in it? That discharge area is smaller than on the 20" model it seems.

Looks like you have a mouse nest in there
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It's regular dry not super thick or long non-gluey grass
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How long are those clippings? It almost looks like hay. I know it likely isn't but it looks really long. With the rest of the underside so clean, there should be no clogging problems. Something just doesn't look right. Maybe it's an optical illusion, but I agree with Jacob, the opening looks so small.
Is the bag empty? Just reaching here.

Can you clear the chute and get another picture? Move the blade so the chute is completely visible in the pic. Pics of inside and outside? Preferably the outside one with bag installed, but rear lid open enough to see down to the chute. Also, one with everything looking how you normally have it for mowing. 
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In regards to the proper blade mounting - I do not see the "This side facing grass" engraving. So maybe ?
Also blade looks like it could use a sharpening - outer half apppears very bumpy
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I actually took the blade off in sharpened it right after I took that picture and it did fare much better as far as cutting goes. Chute still got clogged though. that was the way it came out to from the factory so I will assume it was in the proper direction though. I have one of the high lift blades arriving from Amazon tomorrow so I will see how that goes
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How tall is the grass you are cutting.
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Where I live in Virginia, it rains a ton during the spring, and the grass grows like crazy.  I'm talking 6" a week sometimes.  Long enough to go from being mowed at a 3, to sprouting up high enough to have seed pods at the top. 

I don't use the chute and bag because the super tall, and very well hydrated, grass would clump in the chute like this.

In stead, I close the chute off, and mulch-mow at the highest setting, which would instead leave the clumps all over the yard.  A second pass with the mower set to 3 or 4 would break up the clumps nicely, and cut the grass a bit shorter than it was.  I never tried the bag on the second pass, though.  

Then I got the high lift blade.  It makes a HUGE different when the grass gets really tall and retains a lot of water from the rains.I still don't bother with the bag, but I can usually get the lawn done in a single pass with the HL blade, if I mow every few days.
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Good eye szwoopp, I would check to see if it has that engraving. That could be the problem if it doesn’t have the correct side facing the grass. If it doesn’t say that anywhere on the blade I would say you definitely need a different blade, maybe they missed that one.
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I wondered about the blade mounting but it looks like the ends are swept upward to the underside of the mower which is the correct orientation. A little tricky to tell with that pic.
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Szwoopp, you would shudder if you saw my blade. It looks like a serrated blade, but I keep all those nicks nice and sharp and it still cuts great.
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I did casually look for the engravings but didn't see it. Thought maybe it was covered by the grass. Figured I was going to put the high lift blade on in a few days anyway so I didn't get too excited but I will definitely support on the new blade tomorrow. The grass is just normal few inches high, typical length that you let your front yard get to before you cut it. I know that picture looks like it's 6 in tall hay
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John, It's best to only remove about an inch or less of grass at a time. Trying to cut a few inches might be why you are seeing this. 
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ya and double cut if you need to, I would have to double cut with my gas mower from time to time as well.
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Yea, I don't think I'm removing much more than an inch. I don't let my lawn get too long before I cut it
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Um. The grass went to seed. Must have hit a tall spot
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Just like mine
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I agree with Jacob. The seed would indicate to me that you took off a lot more than an inch, at least in some part of your yard. Some of those grass blades are at least as long as the chute is wide.
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Agree looking at this on the computer monitor last night - blade is trash and sure looks like hay like someone mentioned. (Could this be spam?)
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Hay much more likely than spam.  Just not the right consistency.

Spam spam spam spam
spam spam spam spam
spamedie spam !
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I would never eat spam.  Looks disgusting.  There is no hay in my yard and the none of the grass is longer than a few inches.  I think it just clumped together in the chute.  My high life blade is sitting on my doorstep from Amazon.  I'll see how it goes after I put that on. 
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Did the blade come with a 6 pack of Miller
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I have done everything..cut grass at different levels   cut it  very dry...nothing works  the chute clogs withing walking about 15 to 20 feet.... then clumps and falls out from underneath the mower deck......Owned many gas mowers....never needed a "Special" blade or had to put Pam spray in the chute...
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Once the chute clogs - you are now in mulching mode - with short dry grass there is nothing to clump.  It should just mulch and you don't see the clipping because the grass is short and dry.

Blade is sharp
Blade is installed the proper direction
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Have you called customer service
What was their advice
Did you call them again when it didn't work
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The mower works fine without a special blade or sprays.  Those are just items that help people get improved results, not satisfactory results.
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Let us see the outside of the mower.
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Didn't get a pic of that, but it essentially looks the same on the other side of the chute.  
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What about your bag. I'm just guessing here but if it's very dirty it can't breathe good and won't accept the clippings well?

Think my son said his brand new 20" steel deck had clogging issues - I'll confirm.
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The bag was brand new. I've been mulching until now.
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Marc, where are you and what kind of grass do you have?  I'm in Houston Texas, where 99% of lawns are St. Augustine.  The conventional wisdom, circa 2016, is that St. Augustine should be mulched not bagged.  For the previous 45 years I had followed the previous conventional wisdom that said you should bag St. Augustine to prevent mulch buildup.  I'm not sure I'll live long enough for the next change, so for now I'm sticking with mulching mode.  Less time with no trips to the compost bin.

However, at the beginning of spring, I cut at level 3 and use the bag, and then I ease back over the next few mowings to level 5 in mulching mode for the balance of the summer.  I also use the bag a level five when I'm doing a quick touch up to even out the appearance 3 or 4 days after a regular mowing, as I did just yesterday for the holiday.  If I happen to go too long between summer mowings and the grass is extra high, I use the bag, as mulching just doesn't work on 7" St. Augustine.

Long story, eh?  Sorry.  The bag has worked fine for me.  Before the EGO I had a B&D battery electric, and it bagged OK.  Before that a Craftsman battery electric and it bagged OK.  However NONE of the battery electric mowers I've had could bag as effectively as my last Craftsman gasoline mower.  If you're looking for the vacuum power of a gas mower, I don't think you're going to find it in a battery mower.
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The type of grass I have is basically called whatever's is on sale at Walmart lol, unfortunately for me I travel a lot and we've had very rainy weather this summer and last summer so sometimes when I'm ready to cut the grass we have A-day or 2 of rain and then it just grows even taller I have cut the grass at many different levels they're going to send me a high grass blade and see if that helps but my problem isn't even bagging because I never really bag the grass I did try and I could not get the clippings to go into the bag. Is just that the shoot in the back does not work properly the grass clumps up in there and just falls out is clumps along the ground as I pushed the mower I've never had an issue with a gas mower I've never had a gas mower that asked me to spray cooking spray on the inside of it I feel that there's obviously an issue with design and I am going to try the new blade if that doesn't work I going to look for a re find out enough anyone has been able to get them to do that but I'm going to give it a try thank you for your input I appreciate it greatly
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Marc, it would be so helpful if you would post pictures of the underside of your mower as it is right now. Also, a shot focusing on the chute. Perhaps a closeup of the bottom of the blade showing the writing about which direction the blade should face. Another picture of the outside looking at the chute. Another with bag installed and rear door lifted so we can see down to where the chute is. Something isn't right if nothing is going into the bag and it just doesn't seem like the blade is the reason.

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