Strong Start.....Good Questions

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A week or so ago a new member showed up asking some well prepared/solid questions about a green lawn Care business using Ego products. Clearly schwartzy18510....I think that is his name....was doing his homework.

The biggest lawn care site has pretty much nothing on the subject of battery powered lawn care equipment....and pretty much the rest of the internet is lacking in information about the viability of using battery powered equipment in a full time lawn/landscape company.

I do believe there are quite a few solo operators and even a few larger outfits using all or mostly battery....but like their equipment they are quiet about it.

I know that for a solo operator using battery hand held equipment will work....sorta. I already had a full client base before I started using Ego products....I bought them for one account and my use grew from there. I still use gas mowers and some gas handhelds where big long power is needed. I really haven't tried to build an all electric client list.

If I were to go all in on green mowing I would start in towns/cities and stay there. Smaller city/town lots are really where green equipment shines. Bigger properties pose runtime problems that may not be worth the expense. Plus city/town quiet battery equipment mitigates a problem going in....in the country not so much. A solo guy working out of a well thought out truck and sometimes trailer with battery handheld and a propane or battery either push or walk behind can go head to head with a gas only guy and do well.

From my experience a full city/town route will outperform a country mix route dollar wise.

I could go on and on plus I have a ton of run time on most Ego handhelds as well as an even larger ton of use on top end gas handhelds. I am very fit ..I work at it daily....and these products don't slow me down...much.

Jeremy
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Is there a question?  I'd love to give my experience.

I operate a business that runs strictly on electric, specifically Ego products, and it works very well.  

I do not operate as a traditional lawn care company however.  We use service providers who live in the area they service.  We pay them per property and typically have 20ish properties of their own.

As an owner/operator I had to take on someone to work with me.  We were doing upwards of 70 properties weekly.  This obviously doesn't include the properties my other SP's have.

I find the equipment very easy and very reliable.  We had one string trimmer go down and that's about it.  I retired my first 20" self propelled only because a safety clip broke and I don't have time to "mess" withi it.  Still 100% functional and I sold it to a friend for his residence. 

This was our 4th year in business and I am still using the same batteries which now have thousands of mows on them.  
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Lapp.....Is this the thread/response/company that uses bicycles?
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@bigfootcountry — I'd like to thank you in particular for taking the time to weigh in on many of the threads I've posted to date regarding specific questions surrounding my anticipated equipment roster. Relaying your experience has been incredibly helpful.

You're right that despite that despite the incredible amount of detailed and helpful information available on LawnSite, there is next to nothing on the topic of cordless equipment other than the occasional skeptical comment or remark about the technology not being there yet.

I don't know if this is because the cordless adoption hasn't taken off yet on the commercial side of the industry or whether it's because those owner/operators who are using cordless are reticent to share their experience for fear of losing a competitive advantage.

I have found several commercial lawn maintenance companies who run primarily Ego products and who have shared their experiences on YouTube:

  1. Quiet Lawn (based out of South Carolina) — Fully commercial crew running a box truck with Ego handhelds and a serious charging setup. They use the all-electric Mean Green ZRT's and specialize in urban lots. Owner has some helpful video reviews of the performance of the various tools in the Ego lineup. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0zCNwVSKDXkaO-IpKtwWcQ

  2. Electric Lawn Services (based out of Canada) — Specializes in push mowing only, runs his small-scale business out of the back of his car. Also offers snow removal services and has videos demonstrating both the Ego and SnowJoe snow blowers. Not the best video quality, but owner has an OCD complex and it's good to hear from someone with high standards who cares about the little things. https://www.youtube.com/user/crimmy0204/videos

  3. Copper Creek Cuts (based out of Florida) — Uses only gas-powered equipment, but authored a very comprehensive — albeit critical — review of Ego's commercial-series lineup based on an extended demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WgMeRGCT2s&list=PLUILprLiP5Ewd3Ep_TurGtSCk56ImFLWp

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It seems to be a forgotten model.....very little info to be found anywhere on it. YouTube is full of reviews on their plastic model but not so with the metal version. Plus at $750???

A very extensive battery powered mower shootout was just performed and a metal deck mower won in the end . Yes the Ego was the most powerful but it still wasn't able to best the competition. Other than the much higher price Egos metal mower was very close spec wise to the winner.

Jeremy
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Jeremy — Just concluded a detailed side-by-side comparison and demo of the 580 CFM handheld blower and the 600 CFM backpack blower paired with every available battery size, including the Battery Backpack (BH1001) and the 28 Ah Backpack Battery (BAX1501).

My expectations regarding which I would prefer were flipped on their head — I fully expected the Backpack Blower (LB6000) to prove ungainly, unwieldy, heavy, and more difficult to use than the handheld overall. However, I found that the backpack harness was incredibly comfortable, the weight even with a 7.5 Ah battery felt feather-light, the thumb-wheel cruise control was far easier to operate, the fixed tube did not limit my swing radius whatsoever, and the reduction in arm and shoulder fatigue was extreme.

I found my arm tired quickly with the handheld, even on a quick 2-3 minute basic sidewalk / garage / driveway clearing job when paired with a 2.5 Ah battery. Back-blow fatigue is real when using on high or Turbo, as you stated.

I've been curious about the 530 CFM and 575 CFM handheld blowers. Particularly the 575 CFM, as the operation of Turbo mode without having to use the separate button seems like a nice tweak. Can you shed any light on why you'd choose the 575 over the 580 if you had to choose just a single blower?
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I don't want to bash the 580....it is a nice blower. I prefer the 575 because it allows me to use the power in between high and turbo....a sweet spot many times. The 580 has an adjustable cruise knob which is real easy to accidentally engage and not realize. I wear earbuds...noise cancelling plus music....and have turned on the blower and not known it until removing the earbuds. The difference between high and turbo on the 580 is great... maybe to great. When engaged repeatedly you start to feel it in your arm and shoulder.

Jeremy
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I only have the 575 and have yet to find I need more power than what it provides. Shoulder strap is handy for some of that blowback force but I rarely have the blower on hard enough to really feel much of the blowback. As well, I'm ambidextrous so as one hand gets a bit tired I just switch to the other one. 
Note that the 575 is discontinued so it may be hard to find (if at all). I understand EGO is replacing warranty claim 575 with the 580.
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I think the backpack blower is great, they just need to give us some sort of adapter to hold 2 batteries so you can keep hoping instead of stopping to swap a battery.