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I look forward to reading what people think of them once they start picking them up.
Here it comes... the usual questions!
1. In store or on-line only?
2. Price higher or lower than 21" models?
3. Replacing 21" models or sold along side them?
4. Replacing original 20" mower?
5. Same blade as existing 20" mower?
Edit: Availability in Canada? :-)
Will the self-propelled be available without the battery option?
Interesting that it is $200 more than the 21"SP with same 7.5 aH battery.
It weighs 60.7lbs (manual spec) vs 62.6 lbs for the 21" SP.
6 cutting heights: 1 3/16 - 4' vs 1.5" - 4" nice for you short-cut folks.
Brushless motor is a nice improvement I hope. 3000 rpm vs 2800 rpm Anyone know what the old 20" rpm is?
When will they be in stock in the US?
I would like to know if it is a better mulcher than the 21" and comparable to the old 20"excellent mulching performance.
Can I be an official tester? Please. I'll gladly put it through it's paces.
Back to 60L bagging capacity vs 70L 21"SP
Hey. Gimme my 60" mower...... please. I can't finish mine cuz I'm not smart enough to finish it.
Based on the 19.5" length of the 20" blade and the 20.5" length of the 21" blade, here are the tip velocities based on the specified blade RPM, in Feet Per Minute:
Plastic Deck 20" = 16,847 FPM (Constant)
Steel Deck 20" = 15,315 FPM (Minimum)
Plastic Deck 21" = 15,027 FPM (Minimum)
We know the 21" mowers ramp up their speed when the cutting load increases, but we don't know by how much. Same goes for the new steel deck 20" according to Amber's response above.
Wouldn't the extra weight kill the battery faster?
Is the height adjustment still limited to the same as the 21"?
More options are always good, so I won't be too negative about it. I'm sure there are some people out there who would prefer a metal deck (though I don't know why), and I hope EGO sells a milllion of them. Perhaps it's a "perception" thing? People think plastic is cheap and they can't get behind a $600 mower that's all plastic?
My other question would be why not give it a more powerful motor?? 2000W on a multi tool (which I'll be the first to order), but only 1000W (or 700W on the push) on a lawnmower? Why not give us the ability to use 2 batteries - a la the snowblower?
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the blower and the snowblower - the two tools I have in my garage right now, and again, I'll be in line to get the multi tool on day 1. The tech is out there and EGO has mastered it - but its like we're being handcuffed on the lawnmower for some reason.
Jury is out until we see how it mulches and if the SP drive train is engineered better.
!. SP not functioning at times,
2. Mower or SP not starting up (with lights working) which has now resolved itself...possibly caused due to heavy rain conditions for a number of hours.
3. One unit cuts out and back on with the movement of the arm/handle up & down. Works when holding the handle upward. All the clasps are good. Must be a connection issue. Taking it in for service.
4. Back flaps have come off of two mowers. One came off when mowing and was cut into pieces.
5. SP gear wheel wears out. This happened on the first two units which Ego replaced within the 90 day period.
6. Not mulching well...ongoing.
So, I am hopeful that this mower is built better for a commercial level of use and provides quality mulching ability like the original 20" version.
Don't get me wrong...this should be a great, reliable mower for regular home use and the 5-year warranty should serve you well.
We use the mowers for approx. 14-20 hours/week each and after one year of use they are not standing up well. Even though they have a 2-year commercial use warranty, reliability and durability for the two years are more important. Having to have them repaired just means that I am forced to have backup mowers which in the end will sit when others are in service and the warranty period will be less relevant.
I'll do a thorough review after I get the new 20" SP Steel Deck Brushless Mower after a good trial period. I'll let ya'll know about it's mulching ability right away.
By Blue Angel, re: the new, 20” Steel-decked, Self-propelled Model# LM2022SP:
“The steel deck has a conventional side discharge port where you lift a flap on the side of the deck and attach the discharge chute, in contrast to the rear mounted side discharge of the plastic deck mowers.”
SOURCE: This VERY SAME thread, HERE:
Steel deck mowers now available!
Yet, we have WHOLE THREADS on the issue of the side chutes NOT staying on—which would be impossible, if they were TRULY a BUILT-IN “side chute,” such as you described above, instead of a REAR-DISCHARGE “Diverter-chute” (for lack of a better term).
Here's a quote from the Ego-mower Owner:
"I found that the side discharge chute will not stay on the mower. It comes off every time I pivot the mower in a turn. The bottom of the discharge chute hits the grass/ground and gets disengaged from the back of
the mower. This looks like a design problem, that the chute needs to curve upward more. Any other ideas on how to keep it on?"
Terrible Side Discharge Chute Design
And, before you say the above thread was about the plastic-decked, 21” mower, please read what you wrote in the above thread (dated “two months ago”):
If it's any consolation Ego was consistent in their (poor) design of the side discharge chute between the 20" (gen 1) and 21" (gen 2). Hopefully the 20" brushless SIDE-DISCHARGE works better; at least it is a different design, and based on a proven design (pretty much every other gas mower out there today).
Except it’s NOT A “different design,” is it, Blue Angel? Meaning, the 20”, STEEL DECKED, Self-propelled Model# LM2022SP, is STILL an ADD-ON TO THE REAR-DISHCHARGE panel? So, please explain—because for almost $1,000. (i.e. $750.+ $130. warranty) I expect a side chute to:
a) not clog frequently and;
b) NOT to fall off!
And there are more than just these threads on this issue. One owner SCREWED the side on, just to keep from having it fall off, every time he raised the front wheels, to make a turn!
Again: Does or Does Not the 20”, STEEL DECKED, Self-propelled Model# LM2022SP come with a BUILT-IN side chute, located BETWEEN THE WHEELS, as opposed to an and-on, rear, plastic chute?
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