Rapid Charger on Kits ?

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So I've come to love EGO products, and after purchasing the powerload trimmer and powerhead edger, I am looking for a leaf blower (currently thinking about 530 & 580)

I have noticed the kits with the 5.0 come with a regular charger as opposed to kit with 7.5 which comes with the rapid charger.

Just wondering why Ego doesn't upgrade the 5.0 kits with the faster charger as well since based on Home Depot pricing, it's only a $30 price difference.
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Some 5.0 kits do come with the rapid charger, like the snow blower.  Not sure about all of the kits or how they make that decision.
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Yeah, it seems to be more dependent on the tool in question. Mowers and snow blowers get the rapid chargers.
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Regarding leaf blowers, the 580 us much nicer for the money. Notice it is a brushless motor, making it slightly lighter, and should last much longer.
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Every ego leaf blower has always been brushless. From the first 480 cfm model to now.
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It's because people complain about everything one way or another. Plus sticker price is all that people will look at in the store to determine if they buy Ryobi garbage or quality ego stuff. They don't care about fast chargers. They care about that stuff later when they get more tools.
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And it's because handheld tools get standard chargers while non hand held tools get the rapid charger.
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I personally think anything with the 5Ah battery or larger should include the rapid charger.  The 575 blower kit selling for $350 was pretty ridiculous including only the standard charger, but I guess the argument could be made that the 580 blower kit at $300 is a pretty decent value even with the standard charger.

The string trimmer and Powerhead kits with the 5Ah battery are expensive enough that a rapid charger should be included IMO.  The standard charger takes about 1:40 to charge the 5Ah battery, which is not a good experience for someone paying top dollar for these kits given that fast charge times are one of Ego's big claims.
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it's not a good experience paying even middle dollar .. EGO needs a stabilizing purchase price that will not scare persons paying ridiculous battery prices as well as charging prices .. drop all those inane prices and perhaps watch the results?
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The battery prices are not insane. Do the math on cell cost. I can find one cell for about 5.00 each. So 28 of them is 140.00 add other battery part cost, product liability insurance ect. And 230 for a 5 ah battery is pretty stinking reasonable. Keep in mind the size of the batteries. The technology and the profits they must have. We are lucky they aren't more expensive.

However they could have used garbage cells in their batteries and then we would be complaining about our batteries over heating and dying fast.

Look at the prices of Makita and Milwaukee outdoor power equipment and DeWalt. Give me a break. This is free comprared to those tools.
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Woah, lot of nice replies and info!

My thinking was that when you purchase a kit, Ego is putting into a box the charger and battery and in many of them they give a very good discount on both already. I tried to do the math on many kits as opposed to buying them "a la carte", and the kits are better buys for sure and good discounts on the extras like charger + battery.

My thought was that when you're getting a 5.0 battery, it would make sense to change the charger with a rapid one, it's true that the rapid sells for $99 alone and $69 for the standard one, but once they're in the box, for the kit and part of that "kit discount" , the extra $10 or $20 or even $30 would be totally worth it as you're waiting less time for the battery to charge.

For example the HD prices for the 580 blower:

The 580 Blower + 5.0 battery and regular charger is $299
580 Blower alone is $169
5.0 Battery $219
Charger $69
Rapid Charger $99

So A la carte 580 + 5.0 + Regular charger = $457 -> Kit discount is 65%

With that in mind the the Rapid Charger with the kit should come to $64 as opposed to $44 for the Regular charger, so a $20 difference. I am sure a lot of people would rather pay an extra $20 for that...

I assume the big kit discounts for Ego is because of Shelf space, and it's better for them to include extra items in a box and possibly less inventories to track. I also noticed this Kit discount is different based on different items (i.e. not that much on an Edger vs Edger + 5.0), probably because of how many items they sell and how fast they can replenish those shelf spaces.
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Meanwhile, I almost never use my rapid charger because I think a slower charge is better for the long-term life of the batteries.
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I was doing the same for a long time and even mounted standard chargers in my charging cabinet along with rapid chargers for that very reason.

Now I find I'm using the rapid chargers more often.  When charging before cutting I often don't have as much time during spring and fall to get the lawn work done between when I get home and when the sun goes down.  This summer will be the test... when I have the time will I slow or rapid charge?  Time will tell.

There's actually no real excuse for me to rapid charge, other than me being a bit lazy.  Though I must say, since the 5Ah battery I'm using in the mower takes a little longer to charge than the 4Ah I was using (~40 min instead of 30 min) I'm a little less concerned about the battery's health.

If I was using a 7.5Ah battery I'd probably just rapid charge it all the time as it takes an hour to charge even on the rapid charger.  Since I don't have a 7.5Ah battery I guess I don't have to worry about it!  :-)

I still use the standard charger exclusively with my 2Ah and 2.5Ah batteries.  They charge quick even on the standard charger.
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Yeah, when I know I'm going to mow I put the battery on the standard charger the night before or when I leave for work. I only use the rapid charger if I know I'm going to need it for the powerhead when I'm done mowing.
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I ended up picking the 530 today on sale ($149) at Home Depot, the price was right and half the cost of 580. 
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So, what are the concerns with using the rapid charger?
I have one of each of the chargers (one with the 580 blower and one with 21 inch push mower). I love the rapid charger not just for time, but for checking the status.
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There really aren't any concerns, per se, I just prefer to charge lithium batteries at a slower rate whenever possible and store them at about 30-50 percent charge, just for long-term health of the cells. But I'm that way with all my lithium-powered devices, including camera and drone batteries.
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For many lithium batteries, I cannot tell if the battery is about 30 to 5o percent, so I do the next best thing and make sure each battery is used and chargers each 1 to 2 montgs.