New Power Load or Rapid Reload? - Switch to EGO?

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So my boys have a small lawn business in Florida.  My 2nd son (12 years old) just joined my oldest son (17 yrs old).  My oldest son has had 4-8 yards for the last 3 years.  They are looking to get up to about 10-12 yards.  They also do pressure washing.

They have a commercial 36" walk behind, self-propelled 22" mower, Stihl Kombi with edger and string trimmer and a hand-held Stihl blower.

The Stihl Combi is a constant problem with the connection.  Just not designed for this much use.  We are thinking to set the Stihl Kombi to permanent use of the edger since the head unit still has a good bit of life.  

The blower is about 4 years old and I don't expect it to last the 2018 season.  

That leads to the question:  Switch to battery now since there are a few needs or wait longer.

For my boys, a battery tool has many advantages especially when it comes to the 12 yr old handling, starting the gas tools.  He can do it and will learn but it will be tough for a while.

2 Questions: 
1. With the proposed scenario, would you make the switch for the new equipment needed.

2. Between the Power Load and Rapid Reload and a $50 difference in price, maybe something else to break, is the Power Load worth it?  Maybe there are other factors I am not aware of?

Thanks
Matt
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I would go with the Power load. The rapid reload head is easy to reload as long as you do not have to open the head to clean or unwind it. I think the boys would need assistance with it. I am a 60 year old female with small hands and find it more than frustrating to use. Otherwise I love the trimmer. I will be curious to hear reviews on the power load as I have yet to use one.
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I just use the regular ST-1500-S, which doesn't have power load or rapid reload or any of that.  I've got so good at winding it that I'd rather just do that than even bother with the new heads, mostly because I can see exactly what is going on inside the spool when I'm winding it.
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I am a little concerned that the Power Load is new and has its own components that might break and it is $50 more anyway....

Other than that the only difference seems to be the carbon shaft.  I am sure that CF will become more normalized in all sorts of things but probably more of a marketing thing right now than a need.
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Here is a video that includes what I have to say on equipment: https://youtu.be/wzIyCtd0mwI

I did not address mowers in this video.  Let me know if I need to.  Right now, however, I would recommend sticking with gas for the mowers for commercial work.  Johnny Mow and Weed Whacker Lawn Care and other channels on YouTube have great information on that stuff.
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Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to do the video.  Very informative.    THANK YOU!
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Yes, you are very welcome.
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For commercial use you’ll want 5Ah batteries at a minimum. If the blower is being used mainly for cleanup of grass clippings on walkways and driveways the 580 cfm with 5Ah battery would be worth looking at. With reasonable use of power (i.e. staying off the Turbo button) you could clear lots of clippings on a charge.

I find the Rapid Reload is easy to use, but I have large hands. As Beth says, taking it apart requires some persuasion but shouldn’t be necessary too often as long as you’re using string that doesn’t break off.

The Powerload will be super handy, for sure. Time will tell how durable it is. Ego covers it under their 5 year residential warranty but that drops to one year for commercial applications.

The string trimmer attachment for the Powerhead is only offered in Rapid Reload, not Powerload.

The Powerhead with edger is on sale for $129 right now, a price that surely won’t last:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/EGO-56-Vo...
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one year or two years commercial warranty? Last I heard, it was two.
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1 year commercial
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The like and write a comment boxes under your comment szwoopp are not working, so I'll thank you here.
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Most people find that I am rather unlikable :(
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I just tried and found you likable!
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Me too, I’ve been liking you a lot lately! :-)

(You’re not so bad yourself, Ken)
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All of you are great... yeah, I'm not going to show that I'm a softy any more than I already have... 
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I don’t believe they will go wrong choosing EGO I started using the system with a hand held blower which came with a 2.5ah battery. Liked it so well I waited in the power head kit with string trimmer and edger attachments which has a 5ah battery. They all work great. I have since added the hedge trimmer to the power head and was amazed at the ease of use and balance.
My reason for going to batteries was I was sick and tired of messing with 2 cycle engines that work fine for one season and then drive you crazy trying to start and keep running. I decided life was too short to baby these tools any longer.
I’m not sure if I would like a battery operated lawn mower for any thing other than very small grass areas.
Your sons will adapt to the new tools and learn to utilize them to their advantage. Batteries included. - One bit of advise never buy a bare tool the price of the battery & charger along with the tool is truly a bargain — I’m sure you already are aware. Best of luck you should be really proud of both of your sons. (As I am sure you are)
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My sister got the lawnmower and has happily informed her hubby she now likes mowing the lawn.
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Nice!
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why don't you guys start a racoon lodge together.
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I haven't had my coffee yet so I might be missing something, but you're battery is going to need to be charged a few times for 12yrds. Are you going to be able to charge at the customers'? Are you going to put an inverter in your vehicle to run a charger or two? Are you going to have a few batteries so one can be on the charger while you deplete the others?


Best case scenario I would estimate 40min per battery. Your going to have to do some figuring as to how you can keep a battery in the tool at all times. It's not impossible but I haven't heard anyone else mention it in this thread. I do recommend these tools though and I do think it's worth figuring out. For your boys sake I wish the warranty was better for commercial use. Good luck!
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I have been working on figuring this out a bit.  It is likely that they will split the 12 yards into 2 days but that may not always be the case.   

The real kicker with this is the cost of the batteries since they surely won't want to be running up to the edge of capacity and sometimes, they get an extra yard just because the neighbors see them there. 

The more I look at it, I think they would need a 5.0mah battery and probably 1 extra just to get started with just the string trimmer.  Once we add the blower, it will get to be even more.  Probably will need at least two 5mah and a few spares.   That is going to get really expensive really fast, much more than gas, even commercial equipment....  :(
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How large are the properties? Ego’s 15” trimmers will run for almost an hour non-stop at full speed on a 5Ah battery. That’s a lot of trimming.

Here’s the specs on the 580 CFM blower with 5Ah battery:



High speed should be enough for most cleanup, especially if it’s just blowing clippings and edging debris off driveways and walkways. I have a small property by just about any standard (end unit townhouse), but it takes me all of 2 min to clear my drive and sidewalk.

Food for thought.
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Most of the yards are fairly small overall.  Typical volume neighborhood.   A full commercial company with multiple guys could be in and out in 15 minutes.  My two boys are about 30minutes depending on which mower.  The lots are 4k to 7k in size and then the house sits in the middle of that.  Some larger and other smaller....
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I do my own properties and my parent's properties. Are you near Sarasota? I could show you the rig I got, it's pretty nifty. I won't go back to gas, I'm done working on small engines.