NEW EGO 21” Self-Propelled mower with two 5.0Ah Batteries!

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THE FUTURE HAS ARRIVED! 

Are you ready for PeakPowerTM technology? Our brand new dual port mower combines the power of any two EGO batteries for unrivaled performance.


Check it out here: https://goo.gl/Bha3Jc


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szwoopp, Champion

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Solves the problem of Ego owners who enjoy mowing so much they don't want to stop !
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SCDC, Champion

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LOL.  I want this, something fierce.   I'm tired of battery changes.  2 batteries would be the sweet spot for me!
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Jessica Smith

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Technically you're still inserting a second battery, just at the start and end instead of in the middle of your routine.    Can still be more convenient though over switching half-way if your 7.5AH is insufficient for your yard.
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SURPRISE!!!!!

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Is this a brushless motor or the brushed like the rest of the 21” mowers?
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Amber,
Thanks for the announcement.  From the specifications it appears that this is the same "brushed" motor on the single battery unit and spins at 2800 RPM.  Currently the single battery model with the 7.5AH battery provide adequate power for about 60 minutes.  I understand the difference that the steel deck and the brushless motor offers but what advantages does the dual battery bring to the table verses the single battery 21 SP?
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Runtime!
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For larger yards where the 7.5ah battery is short the dual port offers a great solution that most other manufacturers have already adopted. Of course slightly more work if you have two batteries already and the single port model is to swap out the battery.
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"and a more efficient power draw."  In what way?  From what I understood, the system will run on just one battery, so its still just a 56V unit and not 112V combined power, and when both are inserted it will still try to empty the first battery before drawing from the second battery.   Is this incorrect, and if so will it alternate batteries and draw them both down equally?   

Don, to me it seems the advantage is that the 7.5AH battery is heavy and concentrates the heat in one point, and having 2x5.0AH batteries should be lighter to handle and so more useful on other tools like a handheld blower or weeder, while providing a slightly greater total mower capacity.  

6.3lbs vs 4.9lbs, so 1.3lbs less weight on your other tools... downside of course is it means the mower is heavier with both batteries.  Hmm...  
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I believe the system will run on just one battery, but if you have 2 batteries installed it will balance the use of power spreading over both batteries.  Thus it will draw them down equally.  That is how the dual battery snow blower works.
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That would help improve the longevity of the batteries I would think, and would be smart.  Can manufacturer confirm?

Also, 2.8K rpm doesn't seem super fast for a 21"er, does the brushless spin faster?  My dad always told me to run at high RPMs because it would cut the grass cleaner.
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Finally!!
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Whoa!

Fortunately, we just have a front lawn (back is all mondo and patio) and it is only about a quarter acre so I never run out of juice.

But whoa!
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I expected more. More torque, higher rpm, brushless, shorter front nose. Ego is resting on their laurels.
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“...brushless is simply better for efficiency, battery life, longevity and power.”

Just because a motor is brushless doesn’t necessarily mean any of those things are true. Yes brushless motors CAN be better at those things, and on average they are, but it’s not a guarantee.

Anyway, I hope Ego keeps raising the bar and that someday when all their mowers are brushless that they offer great value. Their current brushless mowers are priced at quite a premium.
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As another poster said, ego is resting on its laurels. Top complaints about the mower are mediocre mulching and bagging capabilities for its price range. This latest update of adding dual ports for batteries at a hugely inflated price of $749 shows ego is not in lockstep with the market. $749 for a consumer mower at commercial mower price is not a good thing. At this price, you better have all the bells and whistles.
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Sounds like people are looking for this mower in the states?  LM2122E-SP https://egopowerplus.co.uk/products/mowers/lm2122e-sp-52cm-self-propelled-mower
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Ego has way too many products, particularly different variations of the same tools.  Tremendously confusing.  Please just discontinue selling all older models and only sell the latest one.  The blower has the 480cfm, 530cfm, 575cfm, and 580cfm.  Trimmer has straight shaft, split shaft, aluminum, powerhead attachment and carbon.  Hedge trimmers are 2400, 2410 and powerhead. Chainsaws are 14inches and 16inches.  Mowers are sp, push, steel deck, sp brushless (internationally), 20 inches and 21 inches.  And they are all currently available at home depot.  What a mess.  I can imagine somebody looking it up for the first time and go OMG, which is what.  

Ego's mower should be the company's flagship product with the all the bells and whistles.  In my opinion, should be sold at a very low price to lock people into the ego ecosystem.  Automatically get 2 large batteries, what do you do next, you go out and buy a bunch of ego tools.

Rant aside, clean up your product line and give us a brushless mower at a fair price. 
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They do have a brushless model, but what confuses me is that the steel deck brushless model seems to have significantly lower average reviews than the brushed plastic deck.    What I'd like to see is to work with vendors like Home Depot to ensure they have mowers on the floor, assembled, with a "dummy" display battery of appropriate weight so I can actually touch it, push it, fold the handles, and really get a feel for it.     Both Home Depots in my area only have them in a box about 15 feet in the air.

Ditto on the tools, I'd love to actually touch and see the trimmers and what not, but same problem.  I'd like to see how easy it is to click and unclick the latest multi-tool for example, or feel the weight of the backpack blower on my back with a dummy 7.5AH or 5.0AH battery.   Does no one any good if I have to "buy it to try it" as that's a barrier to entry, and if I don't like it now you have the lost value of a customer return product.
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Don,
I have to agree with your comments.  I was expecting more out of this release and wanted a reason to upgrade from my EGO current mower.  Since I already own two batteries I really don't see a major advantage of this model.  I like the concept of the dual battery but the platform needs to bring more to the table.  Maybe they will come out with a brushless steel model with more torque & RPM next year.  
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Then I would be interested as well.
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The Peak Power system should provide the motor with increased power under load (reduced voltage drop) which may give it more torque under high load conditions.

That said, the difference is probably slight since there’s no claim of superior power being made. Also, power under load is not something current 21” mower owners were complaining about.
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I wish the user is given the option to control the mower's rpm.  If I'm mulching wet grass, I want the mower to always to have higher rpm to mulch properly and not clump. 
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Its important to keep things simple.   How about simply a "turbo" button, that when selected would run the mower at peak power?     Everyone knows what that means, and would cause less questions than "what does this manual speed selector do and what's the right speed for XYZ conditions".  
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I like it Jessica.  The mower does automatically kick into high rpm when it senses a heavy load.  But it would be nice to be able to do it yourself when you feel it is needed but it is perhaps only 80% to tripping the sensor and getting the automatic boost.
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Too small. Your pulling 1000 watts for a 21". It could easily have been a 30" mower at 2000 watts..........the batteries are experiencing like 10 amps of draw each....... Good for batteries I guess.

Stop being wimps and make something huge
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Yess!! like a rider!!
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Riders are a bad idea. Carrying people around takes a lot of power. This is why walk behinds are the way to go. You will get double the run time with a walk behind over a rider.
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took the words right out of my mouth Jacob
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Been saying this for 2 years ever since I returned my first Ego mower for being underpowered (IMO). All the other tools are awesome, but you're absolutely right, it needs to be 26-30". Double batteries does next to nothing except save about 90 seconds to do a battery change. Love Ego, but this is a huge disappointment. I will continue to wait and use my Honda for now.
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"Carrying people around takes a lot of power."  Especially the average American consumer.  :D
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Less than 24 hrs after I bought the 7.5ah mower. I was holding out and holding out and finally got fed up with my gas mower not starting yesterday. Timing is everything! Oh well, I have a small yard, I won't need the extra runtime.

On the brushless topic, I noticed the Ryobi next to the Ego at Home Depot has a brushless motor.
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A quality brushed motor is better than a crappy brushless motor.
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Brushless motors or brushed. It really doesn't make that much of a difference. I honestly prefer brush over brushless because brushless requires more electronics than brushed. I prefer simplicity
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I know from large-scale RC, that brushless can offer far greater performance.   The brushes wearing out is a non-issue, as you can just make them spring loaded and huge so they'd last two decades of mowing, but at least in aircraft there's a noticeable improvement in flight times and how fast you can spin the prop, and I'd think that'd translate to mowers in theory too since its the same concept spinning a big metal "prop".     I think what we really need to hear about are peak horsepower ratings or something we can understand, as the big question is usually not just volts and amp hours but how much current you can really pull from the battery.
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That’s pretty sweet! What about the steel deck?
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For the same price you could get the 21" SP 7.5 AH mower kit, plus an extra 7.5AH battery. I'm willing to do one battery swap (also allowing you to charge one battery while you are mowing) to get 15 AH of capacity.  [I've never felt like I've needed more power from my  7.5 AH battery mower...]
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Woah 749 for it.................. 500 for the 7.5 so model. And 250 more for this one........... Sometimes I just don't understand some companies logic.

Makita is really bad. Their prices make no sense at all.
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Holy smokes. I just now saw the price.  What in the world! 
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Steel deck would be $1000.
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I have to agree, $750?! What in the world.
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Are both batteries active at the same time? If that's the case it doesn't work for me if they both go out at once and I have to recharge two at the same time (which is too taxing on my trailers recharging system) and have two spares to maintain the ability to mow all day long. 25,000 steps a day long.
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I do appreciate old stuff.  Ever watch James May, The Re-assembler?  He did an old reel type gas mower.  Quite genius for its day, but man it was heavy.
These EGO tools are like from outer space (modern) in comparison.
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Regarding coal power, remember about efficiency of scale.  The average lawn mower produces many of the worst pollutants in quantities per hour equal to 26 idling modern cars from a study I was reading.    From the displacement you'd think that's impossible, but you have to remember the bigger car engines have exhaust gas recirculation, huge catalytic converters, advanced processors, fuel injection, etc.     The same logic applies to coal plants, and "clean coal" where the coal liquefied first and goes through scrubbers produces little pollution aside from naturally releasing the captured CO2 back into the atmosphere... and while you'd think that would be unavoidable, we have plants in Texas now using "carbon sequestration" where the CO2 is pumped back underground and trapped under many clay layers.   And even if it weren't so much more efficient, which it is, at least you can put a powerplant outside city limits and usually downwind, whereas your mower is polluting right in your yard where it will have the biggest impact on local air quality. As solar and wind become ever cheaper every year, their percentage of the grid is also increasing, so long story short is that electric is certainly much healthier than gas mowers.  
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Wow. Great write-up Jessica.
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Nice Jessica.   Love the fact that you use facts verses some sort of political ideology. 
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Small engines are typically the largest offenders. Anyone here been to India? Spend a day in Delhi and you’re blowing black crud out of your nose before going to bed. Tons and tons of small engine powered vehicles running around there, though they’re not the only offenders.

It amazes me that motorcycles are allowed on our streets without any serious pollution controls. At the very least two-stroke engines are all but forgotten... I bet my parent’s old Weed Eater polluted as much or more than most gas mowers!!!
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damm ! jut got a classic ego a couple weeks back