Looking for Max Power: Cordless vs. Corded

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Hello.  I'm considering buying a new top-end Ego, but have a dilemma to solve before I can do so.  Hope this group can help!

Context: I currently own the Greenworks 25112 corded mower (13 amp model, it is not brushless).  It has been reliable, but it struggles with my thick Kentucky Bluegrass growing in the Northern California sun.  It fails completely to mulch, and even falling a bit short on bagging.  I get roughly one 80' row per bag - ouch. 

Problem: So, I'm evaluating options between a Honda HRX217VKA, the Ego top of the line 56V battery-powered, and the Greenworks top of the line 80V battery-powered.  Basically, it isn't worth even *trying* an Ego or Greenworks battery-powered if they aren't (meaningfully) more powerful than the 13 Amp corded model I currently have.  I'm reluctant to order online if it's likely I'll have to return it, or - worse still - have to own two lawnmowers that can't do the job.

So, anyone here have any ideas on how to know if the Ego 56V is more powerful than that 25112?  How much more powerful?  Ditto vs. the Greenworks 80V.  I'm dying to buy one, even at that nose-bleed price :)

Thanks all!
Matt.
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I mow over 2 acres of lush turf and a quarter mile of rough, weedy as in burdock and bull thistle, paths with my egos (we have two for time saving) I don't think you will have any trouble.  You may want to upgrade to a high-lift blade for mulching/bagging. I have both and I think both work fine.  If the grass gets long between mowing, you may see mulch rows right after you mow but it sifts down after a few hours.  Mowing slowly to make sure the blade is making good contact with the grass is pretty important with the thick stuff.  In our thinner areas we can fly.  I think you will be pleased.  Remember Ego has power management features that the other models you are looking at don't, so you get longer and more powerful run times.  
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Buy a Honda 217.  I bought my honda top of the line about 8 years ago almost $900, it even has electric start. rear drive.  It's been reliable and powerful, It cuts wet grass pretty well too.  I've been thinking on getting a batter powered mower but after seeing all the problems that EGO users are having, I'll think I'll stay with my Honda gas mower.  Only use pure gas it will run better, not that 10% ethanol gas.
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Also the new Honda 217 has a bigger motor then the previous years....
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If you are looking for max power I would suggest the Ego LM2142 dual battery model. It is the most powerful mower ego makes.

Buy it from Home Depot, use it for up to 90 days and if it does not meet your standards you can easily return it for a full refund.

And then you can enjoy the benefits of battery power. You know the no gas part and will certainly enjoy the no cord bonus !
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Skeptics aren't serious about the benefits of cordless; their loss not to mention their neighbors and our environment.
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Kendall Bohna, "all the problems" you're seeing Ego owners having is because you're at a forum where people with problems go to ask questions and get help. That skews your perception. I've been to a Honda mower forum and judging from that a lot of Honda mowers have problems, too, which isn't true.

@Matthew Eichner, someone around here has been posting that there is a rumored new Ego mower coming out next spring. Whether that's accurate or not, I don't know. But if you can hold out you might want to see what the new model holds.

If not, you can buy at Home Depot, which has a generous 90-day return window, or one year if you buy with a Home Depot credit card. That gives you ample opportunity to try an Ego mower without risk.
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I had the Ego and now I have the Honda 217. The Ego did not cut to my satisfaction. The 217 does. 
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Re the gas floggers: People are going to come to a board when they have a problem. But they are the far minority. A handful of posts over years asking for help, which is often easily solved with technique tweaks or a generous warranty replacement policy, does not represent the 1,000s of happy Ego users out there.

If you really like gas and want to help people, according to google there are literally millions of posts by folks looking for help with their combustion engine problems. There is only one Ego board. That should tell you something about how well battery vs gas works.

You, of course, fail to mention that gas engines are a pain in the a**. They require constant fussing and maintenance. We gave up a PTO gas riding mower and a high end gas push for the Ego and could not be happier. No stinky fumes, no loud noise, no running out of gas mid-mow and driving miles just to foul up your trunk with gas.

The "electric" start on our gas push failed after one season. I was exhausted from yanking on the joke "first pull" cord before I even started mowing. The things were in the shop nearly every year with some problem. In 5 years we spent as much on repairs and maintenance as we did on the $4,000 riding mower. Broken mower decks, fouled spark plugs, mice chewing the filters and wires, clogged carbs, clogged gas line, and don't even get me started on how many lead batteries we went through, every season like clockwork.

The top of the line push mower was dead in two years, we didn't even bother trying to fix it. We switched to Ego and never looked back. We have a big place so we bought a second to save time it worked so well. This is our 3rd season with our first one and it is still like out of the box.

If you like spending your Saturdays dicking around with a gas engine babying it into playing nice, go for it. I don't have the time (obviously by how badly maintained ours were.) Summer is our high season at work, so my free time is precious when I get any. I like pushing a button, running around my yards without bothering the neighbors and getting on with my day.
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Prariedog, love your analysis and so true.
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Thanks to everyone for your quick responses.  I didn't intend to set off a debate on gas vs. electric/battery.  I'm a big fan of electric/battery, if at all possible (and even own the Greenworks corded!) - for all the reasons mentioned above.  The big issue has been "do any of these electric options have the power to conquer my lawn?"  Ideally, a comparison of actual torque to the blades, or just a wattage to the motor, would help.

Ken - thanks so much for your comment.  I was unaware of the return policy at Home Depot.  That is pretty compelling.  That said, I hate unboxing things and leaving a mess for someone else if there's a better way.  So...I may wait for that new model rumored for next year.

As to this year ... I'm giving a try to just throwing the grass out the side vent, giving up on bagging / mulching, and seeing if that works with the current mower.  Tried it last night on a 7-day mowing gap and ... it was a bit of a struggle, and the side-thrower tended to get got / buried in the grass. And the lawn looks uneven.  (sigh)  But it was at least faster ... Maybe something I can put up with for another couple of months until the growing season slows down ... as long as the clumps don't hurt the lawn.

Anyway, thanks again to everyone on this site.  Failing a true comparison that makes a next move obvious, I may just wait.  But at least I won't be running to gas for now :)

Matt.
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buy one and tell us :)

If you don't like it - return it for a full refund.  That is really the only way to know because regardless of what anyone tells you - they are not mowing your lawn - at your height settings - under your conditions of length and wetness level and they do not have the same standards/expectations of the results that you have.

The stats and reviews suggest it could certainly satisfy your needs.  Only one way to know for sure.
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I had a corded mower years ago at my old city house.  The ego runs circles around it.  People cut St. Augustine with it, and lots of folks have really dense lush BG lawns.  People in Kentucky use them, after all.  I don't think you will be disappointed.  Just to be sure, sharpen the blade before your first mow.  Some come strangely a bit dull.  Oregon Mike put up a photo of his gorgeous thick lawn after an Ego mow.  we're not talking energizer d cell batteries here, they are really more like little lithium engines.  And I wouldn't worry about "making a mess" if you don't like it.  that is what home depot is paid for for carrying them.  
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A corded mower was an even worse choice for me years ago than corded hand-held garden equipment.  Ever cut a cord?   I have?  Ever worry about being electrocuted?  I have.  Ever run out of cord length?  Ever get disgusted putting away, or untangling a very long extension cord?  I have.   I couldn't be happier having 7 EGO tools.   I've got plenty of batteries (I think I have 6, plus the 7.5 for the mower) so I never run out of "juice".  No fumes, no heat, no odor, no cord-yanking, no vibration, and I can work earlier and later in the day because I won't disturb nearby neighbors.   And the lights on the mower actually light the way!  :)

Bottom line: I've owned both gas powered and extension-cord-tethered equipment.  I'll never go back to either.
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Same for millions of us buying in to this platform.
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I love the EGO so much easier than any other mower in my opinion. Only maintenance you really have to do is sharpen the blade more often, no biggy I have another back up blade just to throw on. Put the battery in and go. My neighbors say I make it look so effortless, because it is with the self propel. Neighbors are also complimenting me on my lawn. Now almost all my neighbors own a battery lawn mower.
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As mentioned above, the dual-battery mower has a 1200W motor. While technically your corded mower could output about 1500W (120V*13A), does it really? I have the dual battery mower and love it. Under regular cutting conditions it runs at low power for better efficiency. When it comes on the thick stuff it ramps up. I've only ever noticed one power level higher, and don't think that's the max. Must take some pretty dense stuff to kick up even higher.

I can't imagine dragging a 100', low gauge extension cord behind me while mowing...what a hassle! You didn't say how big your yard is, but if it's all within reach of an extension cord, you'll have absolutely no problems run-time wise with the Ego.