LM2022SP 20" Steel Deck versus LM2102SP 21" Plastic Deck

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I am trying to decide between LM2022SP 20" Steel Deck versus LM2102SP 21" Plastic Deck.

I need a mower for my new bermuda lawn that is starting to come out of dormancy.

The LM2022SP is currently $749 at Home Depot and the LM2102SP is $499.

I understand that the steel deck has a brushless motor compared to the brushed 21" but is that worth the $250 price difference?

My back yard is completely level but my front yard has a slight grade and in reading the specs on Home Depot's website, it appears the steel deck weighs less and also has a shorter nose which could make it easier to maneuver?

Any help deciding between these is greatly appreciated, I need to make a decision this week
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I've never seen or used the steel deck mower, but I've used the 21" plastic deck for over a year.  (I think I paid $550 for it then...)

You can read the review of it I wrote last year here: https://www.summet.com/blog/2017/10/21/ego-21-self-propelled-56-volt-power-plus-lawnmower-review/


From a value standpoint, I can't imagine anything about the steel deck version that would be worth $250 more than the plastic deck version....
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I had the plastic deck first.  I did not like how the front stuck out and would leave about 4-5 inches of uncut grass when you'd butt up to a fence or a wall.  The steel deck has a much shorter "snout" on the front.
I like to side discharge.  The plastic mower side discharge is in the back and I didn't think it worked very well.  The steel deck has a side discharge similar to every other mower on the market.
I preferred the brushless motor to the one with brushes.  It might be in my head, but I think the brushless motor delivers more RPM's.
I think the steel deck is more maneuverable than the plastic deck.  I also think it's easier to clean under the steel deck mower.
That may not sound like a $250 difference, but it was worth it to me.
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Plastic won't rust. :)
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Michael, in addition to the great info shared above, you can compare the specs of the two mowers here, manuals are available online:

https://egopowerplus.com/collections/...
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Thank for the responses, I have gone ahead and ordered the steel deck from Home Depot's website.
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I have a couple of questions.  Does anybody else have a Ego dual battery self-propelled mower  be sides myself?  I trying to understand why someone would pay over $700 dollars for a steel deck single battery self-propelled mower, when they can buy a dual battery brushless self- propelled mower for about the same price.  I used my mower yesterday for the second time.  I can't believe the torque and running time it has compared to my single battery self-propelled mower.  They both have brushless motors.  Is the steel deck that important over power, torque, and running times.  Am I missing something here???
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I do not think you are missing anything.  A lot of the information you mention has only just come to light.  It has been a mystery up to about a week ago what features this mower had beside longer run time.  We now know it is brushless and provides more torque in addition to longer run time.  I agree it is now their top of the line mower.
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How do you like your decision?
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I also have the dual battery mower, after debating quite furiously with myself. While I can't compare to either of the other models, I wouldn't trade the dual battery one for either of the others. The only complaint would be the long snout, but that's fixed by running it along the walls instead of butting into them. The price difference for steel vs plastic is crazy extreme in my opinion. The plastic seems perfectly sturdy.
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William

Did you have any issue with the cut grass being visible after mowing with the single battery mower.  i.e. not quite mulched enough. 

Does the dual battery mower eliminate this issue for you
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Yes, it does.  Our house is on top of a hill.  We have grades in front of the house and steep grades behind the house.  My single battery lawn mower would get hot three to four times (orange light) while I was cutting, plus I had to change batteries. I, also, had to cut at a very slow setting. I cut our lawn at 31/2 inches (number 5 setting).  It is thick Kentucky blue grass sod.  I am using the heavier up lift blade.  My dual battery lawn mower never gets hot and I can set it at a faster setting and cut the grass completely and level.  The batteries never get hot because they are both being used at the same time.  It looks like I am the only person on this site that has this lawn mower.
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It is rather new and as I said we are just learning about what it has to offer, so I am sure that will begin to change soon.
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I think Ego has a large stock of single battery self-propelled mowers and need to sell them, so they kind of down played the dual battery lawn mower by not mentioning all the upgrades it has.  I kind of feel bad that people are willing to pay over $700 for a single battery lawn mower, because they don't have all the facts on this new one.
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I doubt that.  If that was the case they would just not introduce the new mower.  I do not think anyone brings a product to market with the hopes of it not selling well.  Just a matter of getting the info updated on HD website to include all of the features.

another discussion about it here
https://community.egopowerplus.com/ego/topics/new-ego-21-self-propelled-mower-with-two-5-0ah-batteri...

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They mentioned all the features on their snow blower and steel deck lawn mower, but somehow  forgot to mention those features on the new lawn mower.  If they mentioned those features how many people would buy their existing stock.  Even when I called them, they gave me the wrong information.  Do you think that they are that incompetent.  Even when I bought my new BMW, the dealership was tight lipped regarding the features of the new model.  They had so many of the 2017 old models on their lot that they wanted to sell.  Maybe that is a bad analogy, but it makes you think about their motives.  You guys had to pressure them to give you the updated information.  If it wasn't for that youtube video by the tool guys, I wouldn't have purchased it.
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I think it was just an oversight.  Again makes no sense to release the new product if you are worried about selling the existing inventory.  Heck they have 5 different string trimmers.   I do not think we pressured them into giving us info, I think we just asked.  Happens all the time here - we ask a technical question - Amber asks an engineer - Amber shares the info.   Just so happens that this one was about a product feature that wasn't listed in the description. 

It is out there just not super clear.
per HD website
Combines the power of any 2 batteries for unrivaled performance
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Its PeakPower technology combines the power of 2 EGO batteries for longer run time and efficient power draw

These are similar description to the snow blower.  It is the same Peak Power system that we know provides more power and torque in the snow blower.

So, like I say perhaps an over sight or just us not understanding.  But I still think they should spell it out plainly in the product description exactly what the benefits are.
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I just went on their website and I don't see any updates.  Why do you think no one is buying this new lawn mower.  The biggest reason is they think it doesn't have a brushless motor.  Do you think that if they had all the updates on this new lawn mower, people would be paying $740 on a single battery lawn mower.  It doesn't take much to update their website.  All the complaints I been reading for the last two weeks are that there is no advantage for this new lawn mower except for the extra battery.  Remember, not everyone is on this forum getting the latest information.  All they can go by is the information the Ego's website.  Ego reads all these comments and still haven't updated their website.  Ego is a good company, but like any other company they need to minimize their loses.  I like that you give them a the benefit of the doubt.  I have been a business man for most of my life and kind of know how companies run their business's.  Maybe, give them a call and ask them why they are not updating their website.  On their website they do mention that the snow blower has a brushless motor.  Remember, the biggest issue was the brushless motor and they still haven't updated their website.  Think about all the people who are not on this forum that don't have this information.  I bought my lawn mower before I joined the forum.  I just did some research on Google to find out why this lawn mower is an upgrade from my old one.  Most people don't take the time to research products, except from what they read from the company.  Remember, Ego is reading our conversations and let's see if they update their information on this new lawn mower.
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Hi All, 

Forgive me if I overlooked this in one of the previous posts but this is my first time buying a lawn mower. We have about a half acre to mow and have been deciding between the LM2102SP (549.00) and LM2142SP( 749.00 HD -that has the steel deck and 2 batteries --required at the same time). We have a slight grade in the backyard but the front yard is flat. Any insight as to what would work better? 
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Mowers are on sale on deal of the day. https://www.homedepot.com/SpecialBuy/...
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LM2142SP in NOT a steel deck.  it is the same plastic/composite deck as the LM2012SP.

The motor on the new dual battery mower is brushless and does provide more power in addition to more run time.  Per Ego engineering department

It has the most powerful brushless motor in the entire EGO mower line (1200W BL motor is much, much more powerful than the 1000W Brushed motor on the LM2100SP). With peak power tech (drain more current from the battery), these two combines generate much more torque than any EGO mower in the market and it actually is the most powerful cordless mower in the market now.



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Wow and per Erik $674 for the dual battery mower.  Kind of wish I needed one.
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Hi Krystle, are  you currently using a SP mower for your half acre? Seems a half acre might be ok to mow with a non-sp, saving a bit of money for other EGO purchases. LOL.
However, I see the dual battery model is on sale right now for $75 off so that may help you in that decision. 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/EGO-21-in-56-Volt-Lith-ion-Electric-Cordless-Poly-Deck-Dual-Port-Self-Pr...

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Thanks for the quick replies.. it's being mowed by a landscaper right now, so we are using neither lol. I thought the LM2142SP was steel based on HD's website. It said "Deck Material - 8 gauge steel". Sorry for the confusion. Honestly, I am just looking for power and run time. When I compared the specs on HD's site it showed the 2102SP at 1 battery and 60 mins and the 2142SP as 45 mins using 2 batteries?
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They do make a steel deck mower so you may have clicked on it by mistake or HD website did a poor copy and paste job with their specs.  The run time estimates are all over the place to start with on the HD website.  And you are comparing one 7.5 to two 5.0 batteries.  You will certainly get more run time from the two battery system but not double due to the battery sizes.  more like ~ 25% longer with the dual battery set up.
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I have the plastic deck 21" self propel, and I strongly recommend the self propel feature if you lawn is 1/2 acre. (If you have a 1/2 acre lot, but the lawn is less than that, that's not as bad....)

I have about 1/2 acre of lawn, and while I CAN push the mower around without too much effort (and have done it when my SP unit was broken before it was fixed under warranty) having the SP feature allows me to mow the lawn much faster with less effort.
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That is what I am looking for. My lot size is .58 and then obviously the house, trees, etc. So I figured just about a half for actual mowing. Thanks for the input.
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And I could, theoretically, just buy a spare battery for the LM2102SP? To avoid downtime if extra time is needed to complete the job.
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You might be able to mow your full lawn with a single 7.5 AH battery, but I expect you'll have to recharge at least once to do the full lawn. With the more expensive mower you'd have 10 AH....but the other option is to just buy the cheaper mower with an additional 7.5 AH battery to get 15AH....OR, you could mow the front part one day and the back part another day....
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Ha, never mind. Just saw the spare battery cost for 7.5mAh 
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batteries are much more affordable when purchased in kits with the tools.
all batteries work in all tools so it does not have to be a 7.5
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Also, true. Thank you all so much for the input. :)
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Steel Deck Brushless vs Plastic Dual Battery Brushless.

Looking for differences in motor wattage, drive system on self propel system plus Peak Power Technology. Only one decent review online on dual battery mower and really very little good info on steel deck model.

I have resisted buying an electric mower for commercial use but may bite this year. I like the idea of the Steel Deck mower with the real side discharge availability but really want the best one available.

Jeremy
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please help me choose between LM2022SP(Steel desk + brushless) and LM2102SP(Plast....