Laying grass down

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I had a new 20 inch ego and it cut my grass perfectly level. I decided after only a month or so to upgrade and buy the 21 inch self propelled. I like the mowers a lot, but the 21 inch mower on setting 4 (of 6), lays most of my grass down instead of cutting it.
This causes me to have to mow back and forth over the same lines to get a uniform cut.

I don’t know why the 20 inch was fine - it might be the front deck shape. The 21 inch sits lower and just pushes the grass down. My grass isn’t that tall and I’m in Colorado so it doesn’t grow like crazy.

I see info on the high lifter blade, but really?! Why doesn’t this come with the high lifter blade. I don’t agree with spending 500.00 on a “better” mower (21 inch self propelled) , and then having to buy a blade that lifts the grass.

I see I’m not the only one with this problem. And to be honest the cuts look like crap with the 21” mower now.
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Well, it comes with a crappy blade.  I liked this mower, but didn't LOVE it until I got the High Lift.
I'll never go back to the stock blade.
Sorry, but that's the way it is, in my life anyway...
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Some seem to have an issue with the SP mowers and even cutting.  Was your 20" a plastic deck or steel.
Have you tried
1) sharpen blade
2) mow without using SP (just as a test on an area to determine cause - not suggesting as a permanent solution)
3) mow on height setting 3 or 2 (again as a test - not a permanent if that is a bad height for your grass)  

4) Apply some upward pressure on the handle so the light front end of the mower does not lift up
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Blade is brand new (brand new mower) and somewhat sharp. I don’t use the sp much at all.

I don’t want to go lower on the settings as the grass here will start to burn. I’m the only one with a green lawn right now. Albeit all different heights and messy. 4 of 6 is a good middle ground.

I keep the front down by having the handle at the correct height.


The 20 inch was a plastic deck. Not steel. But the 21 inch deck looks like it slopes down in front a bit more. Just knocks grass over and it stays laid over. Never gets pulled up to cut.


I guess the deal is, why make a mower designed like this and put a cheap blade on it? Quite stupid to ask for 499.00 and have to squeeze you for another 20 bucks on a blade that’s not even available in stores.


I guess I took for granted the gas mower that was lifting and cutting like a champ.

And like I mentioned, I was so impressed with the 20 inch mowers cut, I went and “upgraded” to the 21 inch sp. Now I’m disappointed.
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The blades are designed for different purposes. The blade included with the mower is designed for mulching, while the high-lift blade is designed for bagging. Some people who mulch still find it to be of some benefit, though.

It's still worth sharpening the blade because they aren't terribly sharp right out of the box.
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Are you still within the 90 days and can return the 21" to HD and then get a 20".  That would seem to be what you really want.
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Yes I am. Only been a couple weeks. What I actually want is the 21 inch to cut as even as the 20 inch did. Does this not seem odd to anyone else but me? Part of the reason to get the 21 was because it cut wider swaths.
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Yes it is odd.  Not everyone has that problem. The cut width difference is less than 1 inch (due to rounding of metrics or deck v actual blade measurements).  Suggested remedies or diagnostics do not work for you.

So the best solution for you seems to be to go back to the 20" mower that gave you results you were happy with.
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I ended up buying (yes buying) the high lifter blade and it seems to have made a difference. The original blade was still very sharp and balanced.

Basically with the 21 inch SP you shouldn’t cut in position 4,5 or 6 with the regular blade. It will not lift the blades of grass up to cut them. Quite silly that you have to buy a blade for this mower that it should have come with in the first place.
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Then there are those like me whose mower works perfectly at setting #3 and the standard blade. Standard blade gives the best run time too.
I think of the HL blade as an accessory like a dethatching blade. For some it's more of a necessity, but for most probably not.
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I am glad I found this.  We have had the 21" SP for most of the summer and have tried everything to figure out why this mower lays our grass down.  Shortly after mowing it stands back up and looks like hell.  Our previous Black & Decker cut perfectly for 6 years but I already sold that on eBay.  We just had the blade sharpened perfectly and it barely helped, if at all.  This week we raked the grass in the opposite direction (to stand it back up) and mowed it a second time.  I love the mower, but the results are really stressing me out.  I suppose I will try one of these high lift blades and pray it solves the problem.  BTW, I saw that someone said the standard blade is for mulching.  I am not impressed at all with the mulching, our B&D mulched much better.  I can live with mediocre mulching though.