is there a way to slow down the speed of self propelled?

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At it's lowest speed it's a brisk walk (hey, I'm 67 and prefer a more leisurely pace) - at full speed, you need to be an Olympic track star to keep up - is there not a way to "gear it down" some?
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I had a self-propelled gas mower for a time and i did not care for it as the speed seemed inconsistent for me.  I hope it works out better for you with the EGO.  I am glad I got the non propelled version two years ago when that was the only choice.
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If I use the self-propelled feature, the mower takes off like a bat out of h---!  Is there some way to slow it down?
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Glenda, I feel your pain but you will get no sympathy here - and especially not from Ego. Apparently these mowers SP feature were programmed with Olympians and runners in mind. I'm assuming you are using the lowest variable speed, which is a misnomer since its still way too fast for most of us - but some, perhaps those in their 20's and 30's, feel it's just fine - no need for a lower speed - so my question to Ego is the same: WHY DID YOU BOTHER WITH A VARIABLE SPEED CONTROL AT ALL? Who would ever use the highest speed? No one, that's who. Poor design on the SP feature but I bet you one thing - Version 2 won't be like this one - will they fix ours? Nope. You are stuck with a GREAT mower with a pitiful self propelled feature. Good luck.
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Bob, constructive conversation is always a good thing, but Ego can't just jump to change something every time someone doesn't like it. Engineering changes just don't work that way. Accept it.

If you have read all the posts and watched the helpful videos posted and determined that there's not something wrong with your particular mower, then I'm afraid it is what it is for now.

Olympians and runners? I think that's a bit much...
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I'm only a runner in the sense that I would try to run if someone were chasing me. The most athletic thing I've ever done is walk a 5k!

It is funny that another new user posted yesterday that they were glad the Ego SP isn't slow like their old electric mower. So perhaps there is another electric option out there for those who find a slow SP speed to be the most important decision criteria.

Of course you can always try the Ego out for yourself and return it to Home Depot up to 90 days later if it doesn't meet your needs.
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Thanks, Bob, for the sympathy!  I just decided to use it without the self-propel which is ridiculous since I specifically bought this one for the self-propel.  I have a slight incline which having a little help from the mower would be appreciated.  I want to be like my former neighbor lady who was still mowing her lawn at 95. I won't with this mower.  I would think that Ego would be working on an amendment to this mower if they want to keep customers coming and coming back.
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You are welcome Glenda - if they don't know they have an issue with this by now, something is wrong - it's been discussed, debated and some here see no issues with the lowest speed but you and I know differently - when you pay $600 for mower, you expect to get the best of the best - and while it IS a great mower, it is lacking when it comes to the self propel feature, big time. While we likely will never see the benefit of the 'fix" at least we can hopefully take solace in knowing we may have helped someone else not have to suffer the indignity of paying for something that is not right.
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You guys remind me of two bulldogs - you must own stock in this company.

I have accepted it but that does not mean they should not fix it on the next version of this mower, be it this year or five years from now, it should be addressed - if my posts helps EGO understand why their lowest speed is far too fast and that their variable speed controller should be from truly slow to fast - otherwise what is the purpose of even having a speed controller? At SLOW it should barely creep alone, probably too slow for even ME or other elders using it - middle should be for most (or average) users and fast for those that like to get their exercise mowing. IT IS A DESIGN FLAW - and no amount of justifying it by saying "accept it" or "it is what it is" makes it okay. Flawed logic.

Let's say it was too fast, even at it's lowest speed for almost everyone, even you - go ahead, put it on the highest speed and mow your yard and then report back here how you feel. THAT IS HOW OTHERS FEEL AT THE SLOWEST SPEED, which is a misnomer, at best. Returning a great mower because it's too fast for me, not happening because I'll just have my wife cut the grass like others have their small children do it. Until then, I'll keep saying it over and over - they need to fix this - at least on the next design revision, IMHO Ego should acknowledge the flaw, just as their tech did to me on the phone, and offer to replace it when the fix comes out, assuming it ever does.

There is book smarts and street smarts - however this is about common sense.

EGO - PLEASE FIX THIS. AND PLEASE DO NOT DELETE MY RESPONSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THIS DEBATE.
Your customers are giving you feedback - take it as constructive. Rather acknowledge the problem and promise to address it in the next design review of this mower, at a minimum. Thank you for listening to ALL of your customers, not just those that have an agenda - why? I cannot explain that.
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Bob, Ego hasn't deleted any posts except spam. They are also very good about taking note of and responding to concerns like this. But this is a brand new mower, so don't expect a new version any time soon.

And whenever there is another new model, it may only address your concern if what you are requesting is actually even possible. Remember that such a "crawl speed" feature is still relatively new and rare to find on a gas mower, and has never been attempted with electric. You are demanding innovation and for Ego to push the limits as if anyone could do it easily.

I wouldn't expect anyone from Ego to keep responding to dozens of heated posts upset about the same thing. If there is an new model with a slower SP speed, I'm sure they'll make everyone here aware of it. Until then, they have noted the request.
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That is why I am glad I bought the push it myself version.  I tried a gas version of self-propelled and it drove me nuts.  Pushing the EGO without self-propelled is a breeze as far as I am concerned - at age 69.
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Bob, we haven't deleted your responses and we have taken your comments into consideration.  As we have said in multiple other threads, we are definitely looking at the speed of the self-propel function as a possible change in the future.   We do not have plans to make any changes now but have promised to let you know, if we do, we'll post here and alert everyone. Change takes time, nothing is going to happen right now.  Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work through all of the requests we receive in terms of design and functionality.
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Question: "is there a way to slow down the speed of self propelled?"

Answer: "No"

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Unless the speed lever isn't all the way in the slow position...
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Thank you Jennifer, I meant to say you CLOSED the first [heated] thread I posted and was pretty much attacked on, not deleted it. I don't mean for my comments to be contentious, rather I prefer them to be constructive but that is in the mind of the person reading it, however I do grow weary of those on here that think it is their job to defend every aspect of this mower, even it's flaws - implying that I (and others) have the problem, not EGO. Trust me, you are a seller, we are buyers, you need to make a change and you know it and we know it - and I will trust that EGO will approach this as a mower for everyone, not just those that can keep up with it's lowest speed. I know you cannot be all things to all people but this one is just a no-brainer. Thanks for being proactive.
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Sounds like you are being very polite in your comments to me.
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I want to add my vote that slowest speed is way too fast for an old guy (65).

Otherwise I love the mower and my EGO chainsaw. I first recommended this mower to my niece, sight unseen, based on how impressed I was with the chainsaw. She was impressed, so I got this one for me. I just purchased and used for the first time today. It's quiet, cuts well enough for me on mulch and seems to be the same thoughtful, quality design as my saw.

BUT, one main reason I got the self propelled was the variable speed option. EGO, please take note:my old gas sp has one speed and it's too fast. So if you based your design on other makes, please consider a reduced lower end. The attraction of _variable_ speed is not all people want the same thing. And, yes, I did have the speed pulled all the way toward me. Even whacked a couple of times to be sure. And, yes, it did seem to be going the designed 5 year old speed. I confirmed the speed setting by pushing it forward and it took off like a cheetah.

What concerns me is the vicious attacks against others who have expressed a legitimate criticism of _one_ aspect of the overall great design. Are we not allowed our opinion? In fairness, the EGO rep seems to have the proper respect.

So please consider an "old guy" option for the future. It would be nice if were also available as a retro-fit kit. I'd be glad to pay for such.
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Gene, fair comments. As a first time product the Ego team benchmarked the existing crop of SP mowers and gave their mower the same speed range. As you and several others have pointed out, there's no reason why it couldn't be made to go slower.

Ego does listen and does include changes to future products, but the likelihood of the current mowers being updated is pretty slim.
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The current mower should be updated. If you spent that much on something that is electronically controlled, there should be an update to the program parameters to allow the variable speed to go slower. Like. Over the winter, bring it in to hd. They send it out, gets reprogrammed, sent back. Oh and increase the rpm to the legal limit. Then all the issues with this mower, including mulching, would be addressed. If it isnt programmable, then a new board should be made to allow for these things.
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C'mon guys, I'm older than some of you and run the mower around the middle of the speed range.  I'd run it faster but I want a half-way decent cut.  (But I'm active.  I walk up a trail a couple times a week.  About 4 miles or so.  Activity is great for your overall health.  My mother's health sucks primarily because she is a couch potato.  Has been for decades.  Now she is 85 and has zero stamina.  Not because of age.   Because of inactivity.   Be good to your body--it's the only one you're gonna get!)
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I wonder if Bob's mower control could be defective? Going to have to figure out a way to measure this speed...out comes the 100ft tape measure and stop watch :)

What is the advertised speed at slowest setting?

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I am going to try my Garmin 705 bike computer and see what it shows for average speed. The Garmin bicycle computer takes more samples so I should be able to get a good reading of the speed of mine at the lowest setting. I looked for a tech spec but have found one yet for the 21.
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Well, that didn't take long. State an opinion, get attacked.
I've voiced mine to EGO. I don't care about the rest of you jerks. Goodbye.
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Great machine, but it does need a slower SP speed, chewed up a lot of borders trying to control the bliddy thing and why is it so hard to pull back when the SP trigger is deactivated?
Great for big regular sized lawns but a waste of money for any other lawn
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Gene, if you are referring to my comment, it was taken without any humor.  Not sure if name-calling was your best way of complaining about other's comments.   FWIW, I had a big grin on my face and seriously didn't expect anyone with big-boy britches to get upset.   :)  Of COURSE I know we all walk at our own pace.   there are many women that walk so fast, I can't keep up--and I'm tall.
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Gene. Your right. If you ask me. The mower should slow down when it feels strain on the mower motor. So its intelligent. Set it to slow but when it sees higher load on the motor it slows down. Simple to implement. Oversight in my opinion
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Dave, that's not humor, its a general lack of respect and insensitivity toward others. One day you will understand, when you mature a little more. Meanwhile, in an attempt to stay on topic - yes Gene, this mower's variable speed is poorly designed and Ego does know and understand that - nothing they can do about it in this model but if enough people express concern I'm sure it can be adjusted on the next model version. The appeal of variable speed is that it accommodate the needs of a broader base of users - they dropped the ball on this model but hopefully they are listening.

Thank you Jacob for your supportive comments.
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Instead of all the personal back and forth, let me mention this, to put the speed complaint into perspective: When I first got the 21SP mower, just for fun, my wife tried out the mower in our yard.  She is 5'3" tall (a conundrum?) and DEFINATELY doesn't walk at a fast pace.  She had NO PROBLEM using the mower on the SP mode at, and near, the slowest setting.

Sometimes, one has to think of what the target audience for a product really is.  Is it for everyone of ALL strengths and abilities, or does it require some minimums?  I wouldn't complain to a jack-hammer company that their products are too heavy for me to  use--I know it takes one of a certain physique to handle those bad boys.   I wouldn't complain to Honda if I couldn't keep a GoldWing from falling over at a stoplight...

I seriously think that Ego has no need to further reduce the already very slow minimum speed.  It is what it is.

Of course it's possible that the OP's mower has some  defective speed control component.  I suggest that the distance it moves at the slowest setting be forwarded to Ego for review.   Something like the time it takes to move 25 feet, or some other similar method.
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LOL!  Me, defend Ego?   HAHAHA!   You must not have noticed all the "champions" that attack me for my often-expressed unhappiness with the Ego mower.  Try not to paint me (or anyone) with ONE BROAD STROKE, please.   I'm not one-dimensional.  Now, try to stay on topic!  It's YOUR thread.  Methinks you are getting a bit emotional over all this.  It's just a speed issue with the mower for you, right?  Why all the long winded rhetoric devoted to complaining about me?  I'd think you would like to avoid the personal attacks and stick to your OP's topic.   Thank you.  Enjoy your holiday weekend,  BTW. 
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ah, have you done any testing to determine the actual speed??   I mentioned that YESTERDAY.   How about truying to resolve the issue instead of expending time on arguing.  I like to solve problems.  To  do that, one needs data.  In this case the data would be your machines slowest speed, so that Ego could know if your unit is running faster than normal.   Mine CRAWLS at the low speed.
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Can you two get a room?
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I just want the guy to put forth some actual SPEED info to Ego so they can determine if he is too slow of a walker, or his mower's speed control is on the fritz.  I hate personal back and forth!   Lets stay on topic, please!
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Good grief.
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Thanks for all of your comments on this thread.  We are closing this topic as the self-propel speed is being analyzed for possible changes in the future versions of the mower.  Should we make any changes, we'll update you here.

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