I would like to know if an updated mower will be released this spring. Not sure if I should wait or not

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New updated mower or not?
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I doubt we'll see an "updated" mower any time soon. The existing mower has only been on the market for a short while, and is pretty much the segment leader. Glowing reviews by pretty much anyone who reviews it are pretty standard fare.

Is there some feature in particular you're looking for that the Ego mower doesn't offer?
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You don't want to know.  Yes, Ego is updating it.  From a 1-inch minimum cut to a 1.25-inch minimum cut.  Lost me for good.  Bye, Ego. 
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Did you intend to reply to this post from a year ago Ronald?  There are some more current topics discussing the release of the new mower models and differences between the original and updated mower.

And I must say I am also a bit confused about what Ego did to lose you for good.  The lowest cutting height setting was increased from 1.2" to 1.5" but I think there were very few customers who have been able to use the 1.2" height setting successfully.  It would require perfectly flat soil with no dips or uneven spots or else the grass would be scalped.  Unless you are mowing golf course greens then you should still be able to get a good fairway-length cut with the new model.
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That's just it.  EGO has written off each and everyone desiring a golf course cut.  A well manicured lawn that doesn't need cutting right after you think you've finished the job.  And one that looks the best on your block.  EGO never made it.  You've got to offer a minimum 3/4-inch cut as ECHO does. As WORX USED to.  Yes, I'm long gone from WORX.  And hope to be long gone from my WORX corded mower which is a real dog dealing with a 100-ft cord.   BOSCH offers a 77mm minimum cut but you must import it from UK and buy a voltage reducer to use it.  And I guess we're getting used to anything decent being over $500 these days.
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77mm = 3"

In case of typo:

7.7mm = 5/16"
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Thanks for the reply.
Well, I know I will be buying an electric mower and blower for sure this spring and am currently researching the different brands. For example, I'm following one of the competitors (Greenworks) that in March will be releasing an 80V mower with a 21" steel deck. I know EGO is probably leading the pack for these products in terms of quality but other brands are trying to steal some market share by coming up with what seem good competing products.
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Greenworks has a very large lineup of tools, and seems to update too frequently.  I'm also noticing that it is a new battery.  EGO batteries will be interchangeable.  I see absolutely no reason to change anything about the current mower, except:

Remove the safety feature that requires the handle be fully extended and maybe release a more robust clip that stays in place for the handle to stay in place at whatever length is comfortable.

The mower is light, so there really is no need for self-propelled.   At least from my perspective.  It is a fantastic mower.

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As far as I can tell, the GW 80V battery is only available in a 2.0Ah size. This means it will have about the same energy capacity as a 40V 4Ah battery.

Ego has a 56V 4Ah battery, about 40% more capacity.

True, a higher voltage system can be Engineered to be slightly more efficient than a lower voltage one, but the difference will be small. Higher voltage is great for marketing purposes, but the battery's capacity is what's really important. :)
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Yes, thanks for the feedback. I'm definitely leaning towards the EGO. It's a more attractive design and the materials used seem to be of better quality. Besides the warranty starting before I would like to, It's just that I don't want to buy it now without knowing that I will have the latest technology and product release.
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Whatever you buy now a days there will always be new technology around the corner!
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We appreciate all of your interest in new EGO products! Please understand that it takes time to design, engineer and test products to our exacting Power+ standards before we are ready to release them. Check here for announcements--you’ll be the first to know! 
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I think EGO better shorten their timeframe on updates and new tools, ECHO's new 58v lineup looks very promising and is also sold at Home Depot. 
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Not bad looking tools, but the Ego battery system still has them beat hands down.  The ECHO 4Ah battery takes 1 hour to charge since it's a compact brick style unit, just like all the others.  This will also have an impact on the long term durability of the pack under heavy use.
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I took a look at the ECHO mower yesterday.  It was heavier, didn't have a single height adjust lever, brick battery like Blue mentioned, uncomfortable handle and 2 less years of a warranty on the unit.  I do not like the "floating" front wheels, I like straight line cuts because of how it looks, with my yard, the end result from a non-linear front wheel design would look like a drunk cut my yard.

You can't compare it against the EGO, because they are too different.  So, I just gave my impression.  It is my very humble opinion that nobody has come close to the EGO battery pack, and that my friends is the heart of these electric mowers.  Once the heart dies, it's done.

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I will be going to check out both this coming weekend but something to correct - the Echo 2 yr warranty is for commercial use. their consumer warranty is 5 yrs, and that is on ALL of their components (including the batteries and charger). I don't thing Ego provides any warranty for commercial use and I believe their battery/charger warranty is 3 yrs.

Weight will be a factor for me, but I do recognize Echo is heavier due to the potential for commercial use which would require heavier-duty construction. Also, ALL of the Echo tools in this lineup have brushless motors.
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Hi Nicholas, EGO provides a One (1) year warranty for commercial use.  Our warranty policy is also outlined online here for reference: http://egopowerplus.com/pages/warranty-policy

We hope this helps. You are correct that there is a 3 year warranty on our batteries and chargers and 5 years on the tools themselves.
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Thanks for the correction.
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I was hesitant to buy a mower now too because I have a feeling a new mower will be released soon to address a couple of concerns people have voiced:

  • No brushless motor on the current mower. I have read that brushless motors are more efficient, so the theory is they should be able to run longer on the same battery.
  • Vent holes in the motor under the deck are a path for water to enter the motor. People who mow moist grass are concerned about damaging the motor. You can actually see the copper motor windings looking at the underside of the deck.
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I don't see how the lack of a brushless motor is a concern?  If the current mower can cut your lawn on a single battery charge, then what does the addition of a brushless motor get you?  To me, that's analogous to installing a larger gas tank on a gas mower even if the current tank is enough to cut the lawn...

Also, based on the 15" string trimmer release, if a brushless mower was to be released it would cost more then the current one.

Obsolescence is a fact of life with electronics, no matter what type... something better/upgraded/next-gen is always just around the corner.  At some point you just have to jump in!  I'm glad I did, and I can tell you this mower cuts with all the power and longevity I need of it.

Those with MUCH bigger lawns than mine are also very happy with its performance.  Here's a guy testing it out on a 1/4 acre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nR2697a6Wo

It would be crazy for me to think that Ego won't come out with a better mower at some point... I certainly hope they do!  What we do know so far is that Ego is planning to release 2.5Ah, 5.0Ah and 7.5Ah battery packs in the near future.  Any anxiety with regard to run time will, for most people, melt completely away at the thought of cutting 1/2 and acre or more on a single battery, something that should be possible with the 7.5Ah pack.
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The big draw for a brushless motor for me is simple longevity. Assuming one cares for an electric motor, when it does eventually fail, it's usually because the brushes are worn excessively. More torque and better power efficiency are just icing on the cake.
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It's a valid concern, Vince. But, I do have to say that my old Black & Decker corded mower was still going when I bought my Ego mower. That old B&D has been cutting grass for 10 years, has a brush motor, and is up for sale right now waiting to cut someone else's lawn.

The only reason I made the move to cordless was because I was tired of dealing with the cord. Lucky for me, the Ego also cuts much better and has FAR more power.

I also have a few Makita brush motor cordless tools that I've been using since 2008. Sure, I don't work them as hard as some people do but they're still going too.

Brushes do wear out, but modern electric motor technology is pretty good as far as longevity goes.
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There's no doubt that throwing bigger batteries at the problem can get the job done, but for a line of products on the cutting edge of battery technology it seems a little strange that a brushless motor wasn't available for the launch offering. It's not about longevity because in reality a homeowner is not going to put that many hours of use on a lawnmower, it's about maximum efficiency in order to squeeze the most performance out of every charge.

According to Wikipedia:
"They [brushless motors] can be found in cordless power tools where the increased efficiency of the motor leads to longer periods of use before the battery needs to be charged."

I have invested in quite a few cordless Milwaukee tools over the years, and without a doubt the new brushless models out-perform the older ones quite handily. I don't think it's a coincidence that the new 58v Echo line uses brushless motors on every single tool - lawnmower included.
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Absolutely, brushless motors are reportedly about 10% more efficient than brushed motors right off the bat.  So for a given system power output they put 10% less load on the battery, which allows the battery to operate more efficiently as well.  A good brushless design can be as much as 15-20% better than an average brushed design (based on what I've read anyway), in either power output or run time, or some combination thereof.

Will Ego launch a brushless mower?  Probably.

Will it happen soon?  Who knows.

Is it necessary?  Depends on how close to the current mower's cut capacity your requirements are.

Will it cost more?  Maybe.  The Echo mower is the same price and has a brushless motor.

Would I want one?  SURE!  I'm a tool junkie who always likes to have the best, but the cost of an upgrade might prohibit it.

I would argue that the thermal management in Ego's packs are worth something in the run time department over competitor's packs simply because they will stay cooler under high load... but that surely doesn't sound as sexy as "Brushless Motor" printed on the box. :-)

For now, my mower is doing a great job... quiet, powerful, and more convenient than any other mower I'm aware of when you take the upright storage into account.

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