Automatic speed?

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Automatic speed. We have had a young lawn boy mowing our lawns with the ego self propelled mower. He's generally only known one speed to mow at -- full speed. When we've done it on occasion we slowed it down to 75% or even sometimes 50% to get what we think has been a better job -- especially when the grass has been long. We have asked him to slow down and he did for a few weeks but then went back up to full speed. He gets paid a fixed price weekly for mowing the lawn.

We have thought of firing him but he's family :)

For the future, would it be possible for the mower to have an additional "Automatic" speed option whereby the mower senses what the best speed is for the conditions in order to get the best-looking cut?

Then we could tell him to only use that setting.
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In need of a governor for the SP, interesting. 
A little super glue should take care of that :)
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I was thinking the same thing!! But hot glue.
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:) Until it's the end of summer and the grass is brown, dry and very thin. In that case full speed is fine.
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I have a LM2100SP out of warranty. The Variable speed is stuck on high. I have replaced the variable restorer, wire harness, and the control PCB. the LM2100SP still has no variable speed control, stuck on high. I have been working on this project for months. I have worked with customer service and they are OK, but I stil have the problem
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Hi Polo:
I found your description and your effort above quite interesting. I have been looking high and low ( Google and Youtube) to find someone who has addressed this problem. I have a 2102SP, which I think is stuck on high speed. I posted a week ago about it on the Board,
https://tinyurl.com/y4j2bxlg
and was hoping that the engineers and techies of the Community will respond to my query. But so far no luck. Anyways, I have a few questions:
1) Did you resolve the issue?
2) In your statement above you have mentioned “variable restorer”. What is that? Do you mean variable resistor? If yes, is that a linear joystick type of resistor? What value?
3) Have you developed a theory of how the speed is controlled?
4) Any chance you were lucky to obtain the repair manual?
Would greatly appreciate a response from you. Thanks in advance.
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I have the same problem, it is stuck on high speed.  Which makes it pretty useless, it is too fast for a good cut.  Did you ever get any more information?  Thanks!
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Just wondering if any of you have found a way to fix the problem of being stuck on high speed?
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So I am having the same problem. I did notice however, that if the handle is not in the fully extended position, it will adjust the speed (but it will not cut unless it is in the extended position). It was just an observation. Anybody else see this?
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I just tried this, and mine does the same.  Not that this helps any with the problem, but it is interesting, nonetheless.  :-)  I have learned to live with the problem, but if there was an easy solution, that would be great.
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I have a help ticket in but have some issues getting ahold of them. The replied and closed the ticket and said to call to reopen it. I tried to call today and requested a callback, but did not receive one.
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I have a similar problem - the mower is stuck in low speed when handle is fully extended and mower is started up. Unfortunately speed is too low for mowing. Speed control works fine when handle is extended halfway - but as pointed out by others here, in that position the mower cannot be started up. Anyone found a solution ? 
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I have a similar problem - the mower is stuck in low speed when handle is fully extended and mower is started up. Unfortunately speed is too low for mowing. Speed control works fine when handle is extended halfway - but as pointed out by others here, in that position the mower cannot be started up. Anyone found a solution ? 
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I had the problem where it was stuck on high speed when the handle was extended past the halfway point to fully extended.  I moved the handle back down to halfway to where it was working correctly, then I grabbed the wire harness and moved it around.  As I moved it, it would jump from working to full speed.  I knew the problem existed in the wire harness between the handle and the middle cross member support.  I took the handle apart and cut the harness and insulation away to where I could get to the wires.  There are 3 wires that go to the variable control for the speed.  I was able to determine which wire was broken and spliced in a new wire for the broken section.  It is working fine now.  This problem is caused by a poor product design.  I never thought about it before but when you collapse the handle down fully, it bends the wire harness severely.  This is going to fail over time.  No matter how pliable the wires are inside, you can only bend them back and forth so many times before they break.  My solution to preventing this from happening in the future is to not collapse the handle down when I store it.  It's not a compact but it doesn't interfere with anything so it will have to do.  I don't want to have to take it apart again.
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Wow
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I will give it a try.  Thank you!
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Thank you . This is extremely helpful. I will do the same. Heading out to get a multimeter , some wires and connectors. Thi design is terrible. I held down the cable harness with duct tape in a particular position to continue using it this week.
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Found the break in the red cable. But surprisingly not near the middle cross member support but at the end of the wire harness nearer to the handle on top. Spliced a new cable and problem solved. Having a multimeter is helpful to determine which if the 3 cable had a break.
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Good work. If you’ll notice when you collapse the handle, that’s one of the 2 sections that get bent the most. So odds are the break will either be at one end or the other.
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Chris and Tim
Thanks for posting - this will be a big help to those looking for a DIY solution.
Happy mowing (with SP)
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Now these posts are making me wonder how the mower could be stuck on high speed. In my case , where the red cable is broken, the mower probably defaults to low speed due - high resistance, low output vs green. To be stuck on high speed, it must be the green cable that's broken. If that is true, mower will be stationary if black cable is broken. Does it make sense?
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You could always change to a variable pay rate based on the time spent mowing.  That should accomplish your goals.
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Unless he then goes as slow as possible :)
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Get a new person to cut your lawn.  Maybe, Ego can make lawn mowers with adaptive cruise control for people who don't want to follow directions or just don't care.
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My impression of Ego mowers is that you're lucky if they work satisfactorily for a season or so.  Asking Ego to provide something beyond that may be pushing your luck.
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Keith, your impression can be swayed by this forum. People usually come to forums with a problem they need help with. People with positive experiences rarely post to forums. So the data are skewed in a negative direction. EGO is generally rated and regarded as one of the very best battery powered yard tools. I'm finishing up my 3rd season with my mower and string trimmer and both are still cranking along just fine. I expect my other tools to last as long and expect all of them to last even longer. 
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agree Mike - also I am very interested to see what features are added when a next generation of mowers etc are developed by Ego.
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I'm aware that gripes outnumber kudos in user forums, but when it takes many weeks to repair manufacturing slipups, even a moderate chance of not having your mower during grass season is hard to tolerate.  My conclusion from reading the messages on this forum is that Ego has allowed its design to get a little too cute, as they say in football when a play is too complicated to work.  The fact that a mower is electric is the big draw.  All it needs beyond that is to be sturdily built, start the blade every time it's turned on, and propel itself at speeds according to a simple speed control, like perhaps a rheostat.  Flashing headlights and etc. are totally unneeded, along with any attempt at computer-controlled interlinks among mower functions.  It sounds like Ego fell into the bad habits that lead telephone makers to load their products with various menus that get in the way of reaching the features most of us really need---i.e., calling someone, answering the phone, and entering, saving, and recalling phone numbers.
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Keith do you currently own an EGO mower? Trying to figure out if you're writing about your own experiences or not?
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Flashing headlights and etc are unneeded - you lost me.

I like that the mower adjusts to a higher speed when under a heavy load.  I do not consider this a luxury. 
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Keith, you seem to like to drop in to other people's threads to complain about perceived problems with Ego products and complain about Chinese manufacturing, but you've never posted an experience of your own, or even indicated whether you own any Ego tools.

Do you even own any Ego tools, and if so, what has your experience been?
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I don't actually "drop in" on threads unless they deal with products I own or am interested in.  The promise of longer battery life per charge drew me to investigate the Ego mowers, hoping to abandon small gas engines and earplugs after 50-some years with them.  But, as I've written, your mowers seem a bit more complex than necessary and lacking a speedy repair system.  So rather than suggesting more complexity, I'd opt for faster repair and/or more simplicity.  I laud Ego for making what your forums indicate is in the main a line of reliable battery-powered lawn gear but also suggesting that the engineers have been allowed to do a little more engineering than necessary on the mowers.  I currently have few lawn tools of any sort, but do need a mower quite often.
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I don't actually "drop in" on threads unless they deal with products I own or am interested in.  The promise of longer battery life per charge drew me to investigate the Ego mowers, hoping to abandon small gas engines and earplugs after 50-some years with them.  But, as I've written, your mowers seem a bit more complex than necessary and lacking a speedy repair system.  So rather than suggesting more complexity, I'd opt for faster repair and/or more simplicity.  I laud Ego for making what your forums indicate is in the main a line of reliable battery-powered lawn gear but also suggesting that the engineers have been allowed to do a little more engineering than necessary on the mowers.  I currently have few lawn tools of any sort, but do need a mower quite often.
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We've appreciated having the EGO self-propelled mower for the last 3 years. It's been working pretty well. We've even used the lights on ocassion when it was getting dark. The only thing I would say is we purchased a spare battery at the outset. Because our lawn takes around 1.25 hours to mow, the battery has been running out at about 40 minutes. We then have simply placed it on the charger and used the spare battery. Been doing that for all that time. Another small thing was that it didn't cut quite as low ("number 1 barber") as the petrol mower, even though it has been on setting 1. In saying all that I think it's been great -- especially meaning no petrol has been needed to be purchased which can take time and car petrol in itself to get to the gas station.
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I think it's important when recommending a product you base it on your own experience or the recommendation from a reliable reviewers. Given that EGO warranties their batteries for three years and their mowers for five years...I'd say EGO, as well as EGO's customers, expect their mowers to last just as long as any competitor's mowers. I've just completed my first year with the mower and I'm very happy with both the mower and the battery. Do I wish the mower would cut a little better? Yes, but I've made that same wish for every gas mower I've ever owned. I already can't wait until next Spring to start cutting again with my EGO mower again.
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Curious if this function already exists to some extent,  That is when the mower kicks into high speed due to a heavy load, I wonder if the SP decreases speed at the same time.
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I think it does take some time to get used to the torque of an electric mower over gas. From my own experience, gas engines tend to push back, resist, and the engine slows down if you go too fast...reminding you to slow down. But with the electric mower's "instant torque" there is almost no resistance so it does lull you into believing the mower can do anything and you can go faster than you should. When the grass is thick, the mower will speed up the blade (and use more power too) but evidently it's not enough for the speed your mower is traveling. 

I'm not so sure what more EGO can do here. What you could consider is one of EGO's mowers with a brushless motors as they should be a little more responsive to the load (or lack of load) put on them. Here in the USA, that would be the 20" Steel Deck mowers and the Dual Battery mower: 

https://egopowerplus.com/20-inch-mower-with-steel-deck/
https://egopowerplus.com/20-inch-self-propelled-mower-with-steel-deck/
https://egopowerplus.com/mower-21-inch-self-propelled-dual-battery/
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So...make him slow down...

I go thru this every time I get my 13 year old to mow. I MAKE him mow on the slowest self propelled speed - period.

It's not something I expect the manufacturer to fix.....
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Pay him according to how good the lawn looks after he mows. When he goes too fast, leaving the lawn looking awful, pay him less.  If he doesn't get the message, kick him to the curb.
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Keith you still have not stated a personal experience, just that you are looking into it. There have been plenty of suggestions to solve long repairs if needed that might not even be EGOs problem but with HD, but that doesn’t even matter because HD and EGO you can get a mower and return it for 90 days which is plenty of time for repairs. I love all the other features EGO has that’s some of the reasons that makes EGO better in my eyes. It stinks when trying to mow after work and gets dark to quick to finish. I would say lights are very much appreciated in those situations, but you never have to use the lights if you don’t want to so why does that even matter.